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  06:36:00  10 March 2016
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Avoids_the_Vodka
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CoP and Windows 10

Greetings All,

Will have some choices to make, updating to a new computer in the near future...... Simple question-

Will a CD Version of CoP with Atmosfear 3 run, without drama, on a Windows 10 machine? I seem to recall there have been install issues, or maybe something to do with a specific DirectX version (or absence thereof)?

I can accept that I may not be able to "transfer" any saved games, if that's part of any problem.

Current machine is Windows 7.

Thanks in advance.

AtV
  10:59:49  10 March 2016
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nashathedog
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CoP and Windows 10

Greetings All,

Will have some choices to make, updating to a new computer in the near future...... Simple question-

Will a CD Version of CoP with Atmosfear 3 run, without drama, on a Windows 10 machine? I seem to recall there have been install issues, or maybe something to do with a specific DirectX version (or absence thereof)?

I can accept that I may not be able to "transfer" any saved games, if that's part of any problem.

Current machine is Windows 7.

Thanks in advance.

AtV
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The DRM stopped it from working for me, Win 10 blocks that particular DRM due to security issues, That was on release so I do not know if it's changed, I'll dig out my DVD copy and try later today and let you know but I don't think it will be any different.
  09:50:44  14 March 2016
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Avoids_the_Vodka
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Avoids_the_Vodka
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CoP and Windows 10

Greetings All,

Will have some choices to make, updating to a new computer in the near future...... Simple question-

Will a CD Version of CoP with Atmosfear 3 run, without drama, on a Windows 10 machine? I seem to recall there have been install issues, or maybe something to do with a specific DirectX version (or absence thereof)?

I can accept that I may not be able to "transfer" any saved games, if that's part of any problem.

Current machine is Windows 7.

Thanks in advance.

AtV


The DRM stopped it from working for me, Win 10 blocks that particular DRM due to security issues, That was on release so I do not know if it's changed, I'll dig out my DVD copy and try later today and let you know but I don't think it will be any different.
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Sorry for the delay in responding, thanks for the reply. I actually did some Googling on this. It would seem you are correct. The disc version of the game has the DRM, which Windows 10 no longer accommodates. As a result, the disc version of the game will not load without help, most of which seems quasi-legal, at best.

I've since downloaded a copy of CoP from GOG (which, as a bonus, already seems to have Atmosfear 3 on board), which simply asked that I provide my original disc Product Key.

The downside is that, for reasons I won't pretend to understand, the download version causes my Toshiba laptop to run so hot, that it shuts down after about ten minutes. I strongly suspect (hope, pray) the new rig won't suffer from this......

Edited to add- To be fair, I had to run both the original CoP disc, before and after adding Atmosfear 3, on that laptop (the Toshiba) with most of the settings scaled right back. The resulting experience was mostly stutter-free, but sure wasn't pretty to look at. So I was probably marginalized on that machine to begin with.

Stay tuned.

AtV
  10:33:28  14 March 2016
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Avoids_the_Vodka
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Another Afterthought....

I know I said "quasi-legal" in the above post but, is there any way to remove or negate the DRM feature on a CoP disc, or an install from it? All I was looking to do was avoid having to carry the darned disc with me everywhere......

AtV
  12:11:09  14 March 2016
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nashathedog
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Another Afterthought....

I know I said "quasi-legal" in the above post but, is there any way to remove or negate the DRM feature on a CoP disc, or an install from it? All I was looking to do was avoid having to carry the darned disc with me everywhere......

AtV
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It would be nice if we could get a response or advice on the matter from GSC. Maybe ask Don Reba if he can get any info from his contacts at GSC or Tejas via Facebook.
I'm guessing there response will be too use your code box code to get a free copy at GOG but it's worth asking, It's a real shame if there no longer usable, I have a selection of collectable COP dvd box sets and although there not used for the game it would be nice to know they actually worked. Thankfully it's not all three games, only COP.
I'm pretty sure Af3 isn't installed with the game at GOG. I don't think them doing that would even be legal. My GOG copies regular vanilla Check your install folder, I had GOG/Steam and DVD copies installed at the same time and found that I was getting some file crossovers going on with the user section. Maybe you have something similar going on?

Uninstall the dvd copy and manually uninstall the 2 folders afterwards so nothing is left behind, That's the main game folder where mod gamedata's go and the users folder where the screenshots and saved games folders go.
Then re-install the Gog version and it should be fine, You can't have done the uninstall and install right because once GOG give you there digital copy for the box code the discs not required, I had a copy of Clear Sky that was unusable because the dvd got snapped, I used that disc's code for my GOG copy of CS then threw it away.
  13:37:18  14 March 2016
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Avoids_the_Vodka
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Another Afterthought....

I know I said "quasi-legal" in the above post but, is there any way to remove or negate the DRM feature on a CoP disc, or an install from it? All I was looking to do was avoid having to carry the darned disc with me everywhere......

AtV

It would be nice if we could get a response or advice on the matter from GSC. Maybe ask Don Reba if he can get any info from his contacts at GSC or Tejas via Facebook.
I'm guessing there response will be too use your code box code to get a free copy at GOG but it's worth asking, It's a real shame if there no longer usable, I have a selection of collectable COP dvd box sets and although there not used for the game it would be nice to know they actually worked. Thankfully it's not all three games, only COP.
I'm pretty sure Af3 isn't installed with the game at GOG. I don't think them doing that would even be legal. My GOG copies regular vanilla Check your install folder, I had GOG/Steam and DVD copies installed at the same time and found that I was getting some file crossovers going on with the user section. Maybe you have something similar going on?

Uninstall the dvd copy and manually uninstall the 2 folders afterwards so nothing is left behind, That's the main game folder where mod gamedata's go and the users folder where the screenshots and saved games folders go.
Then re-install the Gog version and it should be fine, You can't have done the uninstall and install right because once GOG give you there digital copy for the box code the discs not required, I had a copy of Clear Sky that was unusable because the dvd got snapped, I used that disc's code for my GOG copy of CS then threw it away.
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"I'm pretty sure Af3 isn't installed with the game at GOG. I don't think them doing that would even be legal. My GOG copies regular vanilla Check your install folder, I had GOG/Steam and DVD copies installed at the same time and found that I was getting some file crossovers going on with the user section. Maybe you have something similar going on?"

I'm reinstalling the GOG version now. Out of laziness, I simply copied an old gamedata folder (with things like the crowfix and so forth already in it) and pasted it to the new GOG game folder. Big mistake. A search of that gamedata folder disclosed numerous files with "af3" references in them. Certainly THAT wouldn't have helped the GOG/CoP install.

"Uninstall the dvd copy and manually uninstall the 2 folders afterwards so nothing is left behind..."

I was amazed at the number of places that various AF3 files and folders were also copied/hidden. I've now moved all of the old or legacy STALKER CoP and AF3 disc related material to a completely different directory.

"You can't have done the uninstall and install right because once GOG give you there digital copy for the box code the discs not required...

My bad. I was referring to using my original disc copy of CoP in the past, and needing the key. Of course, having provided GOG with that same key, the download went smoothly, and I didn't need disc or key for starting the new GOG version of the game afterwards.

Okay, a vanilla install and start of the game, as straight from GOG, shows no problems. I'm still a bit mystified by the "mp" folder though, which has references to items in it even I recognize as belonging to ShoC........ Still, that folder has been in every load of the game I've ever done, and it doesn't seem to do or hurt anything.

I'm betting the problem was legacy folders and files in the old "gamedata" from my original disc install, and the Atmosfear 3 install that went with that.

I'll post here again, after I rebuild and attach a new(ish) gamedata folder to the GOG/CoP game, and tell what did or didn't happen, as a result.

Thanks again for your help. It's on me now.

AtV
  13:57:09  14 March 2016
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Avoids_the_Vodka
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Ain't No Big Thing, But.......

....Success. I've attached a gamedata folder, that I filled from scratch, with the patches and mods I wanted. Five minutes of game time leads me to believe all's well.

I think I'll just get comfortable with the non-Atmosfear 3 modified game on my old Toshiba, and leave the AF3 and AN additions for the new machine.

Either way, it will still be good, not needing the disc.

Of course, that doesn't mean I'm just going to throw it away.....

AtV
  12:02:40  18 March 2016
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badade
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CoP and Windows 10

Greetings All,

Will have some choices to make, updating to a new computer in the near future...... Simple question-

Will a CD Version of CoP with Atmosfear 3 run, without drama, on a Windows 10 machine? I seem to recall there have been install issues, or maybe something to do with a specific DirectX version (or absence thereof)?

I can accept that I may not be able to "transfer" any saved games, if that's part of any problem.

Current machine is Windows 7.

Thanks in advance.

AtV


The DRM stopped it from working for me, Win 10 blocks that particular DRM due to security issues, That was on release so I do not know if it's changed, I'll dig out my DVD copy and try later today and let you know but I don't think it will be any different.
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I recently installed windows 10 then SOC, CS and COP [all DVD] and everything loads and works perfectly with and without A.V and Firewall. Previously on win 7 I tried the GOG versions but found conflicts with some mods, Oblivion for e.g.

So it is possible and I can only presume that something in an installation that's causing DRM problems can be fixed.
 
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