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  08:57:42  23 December 2014
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Tejas Stalker
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Sell Damaged weapons

nashathedog~

I've been answering questions about Call of Pripyat since it was released
in 2009 for the past 5 years. You didn't show up here until 2011. The
majority ( over 99% or more ) of questions about damaged weapons
have been Players discovering for the first time ( unlike SoC & CS ) that
the Trader in Zaton will suddenly not buy damaged weapons like the
other Games, if they are past a certain point with their damage. Most of
the Players figured out that if they could repair those weapons that would
not be sellable, then after the repairs are done they could be sold. Then
most Players saw that the early cost of some weapons being repaired was
more than what they got for them. As the majority of the questions were
about this scenario, this is what I was talking about from the beginning.

As the Player earns achievements and performs certain tasks, the cost
of items from the Traders go down, the price of what they will pay goes
up and the Repair Techs will similarly reduce their costs to do repairs.
This is what I was talking about from my very first post before you had
showed up. You showed up and constantly changed the conditions after
what I said and in my replies to you. When you were wrong about what
I was talking about, you changed the conditions again to fit your story.

nashathedog:

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The way to do it in vanilla is to stash the higher value guns that are
not cost friendly repairable and then once the route is open ship them
to Pripyat where repairs are free and then ship them back to sell.

Once your travelling to and from Pripyat later in the game it's worth maxing
your travel weight there and back as you can easily pocket 20k + per trip.

---END QUOTATION---



I was talking about all guns. The original poster never said higher value
guns. angrydog never said higher value guns. We are talking about
damaged guns in general that the Traders won't buy. Once the route to
Pripyat is open as you say, the Player cannot make trips back and forth
because there is no Guide. Only later after performing certain tasks can
the Player leave Pripyat. There is a very tiny window of opportunity
between the initial tasks when the Guide shows up where the Player can
travel out of Pripyat. Do a few more Pripyat missions and the Guide will
disappear, the final missions do not let you escape Pripyat and the Player
is forced to do the evacuation. As you never said repairs are free from
the military specifically in this post, I assumed you meant when the Player
has all the time in the world, travel is not a tiny window of opportunity and
repairs are free with Uncle Yar. Only AFTER I said this did you clarify you
meant with the military. If you had said this from the beginning there
would not have been this misunderstanding of the vague time you gave.

nashathedog:

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You make several trips between Pripyat and Zaton/Jupiter during the
game, Weapons such as SVD's, Groza's etc that have been dropped
and then caught in explosions (grenades?) often have zero condition
making them write off's regardless of the cost reductions that repairs
get later in the game, Saving them and maxing your carry weight too
and from Pripyat allows you too turn the trips into a profit making exercise.

---END QUOTATION---



Again you are changing the conditions. The original poster did not
mention zero condition weapons. angrydog did not mention zero
condition weapons. I did not mention zero condition weapons. Only
in your second post ( and the 6th one overall ) is it suddenly about zero
condition weapons after I pointed out how you were wrong. If you had
meant zero condition weapons you should have said that in your very
first post so again there would not be confusion and misunderstanding.
As I have pointed out, since 99% of questions in the past 5 years have
been about damaged weapons in general and not zero condition weapons,
it appears it is convenient to change what you vaguely said to begin with.
Rather than admitting you were wrong you simply changed the conditions.

The original poster did not specifically mention SVDs & Grozas. angrydog
did not specifically mention SVDs & Grozas. I did not specifically mention
SVDs & Grozas. Only in your second post ( and the 6th one overall ) is it
suddenly about SVDs & Grozas. As the beginning Player does not find
these weapons in Zaton from fighting the Bandits or looting any dead
Loners, you are now talking about weapons that don't come until Jupiter.
Most every single damaged weapons question I've ever read has to do
with the beginning Player in Zaton finding weapons that the Trader won't
buy. As the Player quickly discovers that the use of a grenade will heavily
damage a weapon, most Players I have known refrain from using them
so they can recover weapons to sell without having to repair them. As
you have changed the conditions to talk about zero condition weapons,
only you are talking about this. I never was. Zero condition weapons
are probably about 1% to 2% of what the Player encounters. As I was
talking about ALL weapons the Traders won't buy if damaged, I am
talking about a much larger amount of weapons and the conditions
needed to repair them without having to travel to Pripyat at the end of
the Game. Maybe your playing style is different. Maybe you are poor
at tactics, a bad shot and you grenade everything to make up for that.
In that case you probably have a huge amount of zero condition guns
you have looted. Since you didn't talk about that from the beginning
there was no way for anyone to know before you changed the conditions.

If you knew anything about the Game you would know how to get free
repairs BEFORE you go to Pripyat. I'm not sharing that information with
you since you think you know it all and have just changed the conditions
of what you meant when you were wrong and then try to blame me for that.

TS
  11:31:19  23 December 2014
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nashathedog
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Sell Damaged weapons

nashathedog~

I've been answering questions about Call of Pripyat since it was released
in 2009 for the past 5 years. You didn't show up here until 2011.
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What has this got to do with it? Does it make you special or the only one allowed to give suggestions or tell someone there way of doing things?

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The majority ( over 99% or more ) of questions about damaged weapons
have been Players discovering for the first time ( unlike SoC & CS ) that
the Trader in Zaton will suddenly not buy damaged weapons like the
other Games,
---END QUOTATION---

That's irrelevant the OP was talking about playing with a mod and it being many years since he first played the game
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if they are past a certain point with their damage. Most of
the Players figured out that if they could repair those weapons that would not be sellable, then after the repairs are done they could be sold.
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This makes no sense, If you must write things, Try proof reading it so you don't make yourself seem stupid, Not that I mean to be a grammar nazi or anything
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Then most Players saw that the early cost of some weapons being repaired was
more than what they got for them. As the majority of the questions were about this scenario, this is what I was talking about from the beginning.
---END QUOTATION---

And I was simply telling the fella about another way to turn weaponry into money, Not everything is about you TS
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As the Player earns achievements and performs certain tasks, the cost
of items from the Traders go down, the price of what they will pay goes
up and the Repair Techs will similarly reduce their costs to do repairs.
This is what I was talking about from my very first post before you had
showed up. You showed up and constantly changed the conditions after
what I said and in my replies to you.
---END QUOTATION---

Nice try TS but if you can't actually give an honest reason it's better not too try rather than just repeat what others say
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When you were wrong about what
I was talking about, you changed the conditions again to fit your story.
---END QUOTATION---

Erm, Didn't you just say that?
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nashathedog:

The way to do it in vanilla is to stash the higher value guns that are
not cost friendly repairable and then once the route is open ship them
to Pripyat where repairs are free and then ship them back to sell.

Once your travelling to and from Pripyat later in the game it's worth maxing
your travel weight there and back as you can easily pocket 20k + per trip.


I was talking about all guns.
---END QUOTATION---

Sorry but not everything is about you, I was simply telling the poster a good way to do it
---QUOTATION---
The original poster never said higher value
guns. angrydog never said higher value guns. We are talking about
damaged guns in general that the Traders won't buy.
---END QUOTATION---

Semantics, Guns are guns I simply posted something that can be done with the higher value guns that aren't cost effective repairs.
---QUOTATION---
Once the route to
Pripyat is open as you say, the Player cannot make trips back and forth
because there is no Guide. Only later after performing certain tasks can
the Player leave Pripyat.
---END QUOTATION---

The player only needs to perform one task to make the route back available in vanilla and that's get the gauss gun
---QUOTATION---
There is a very tiny window of opportunity
between the initial tasks when the Guide shows up where the Player can
travel out of Pripyat. Do a few more Pripyat missions and the Guide will
disappear, the final missions do not let you escape Pripyat and the Player
is forced to do the evacuation. As you never said repairs are free from
the military specifically in this post, I assumed you meant when the Player
has all the time in the world, travel is not a tiny window of opportunity and
repairs are free with Uncle Yar. Only AFTER I said this did you clarify you
meant with the military.
---END QUOTATION---

I specifically said "once the route is open"
---QUOTATION---
If you had said this from the beginning there
would not have been this misunderstanding of the vague time you gave.
---END QUOTATION---

"once the route is open" that's easy to understand isn't it?
---QUOTATION---


nashathedog:

You make several trips between Pripyat and Zaton/Jupiter during the
game, Weapons such as SVD's, Groza's etc that have been dropped
and then caught in explosions (grenades?) often have zero condition
making them write off's regardless of the cost reductions that repairs
get later in the game, Saving them and maxing your carry weight too
and from Pripyat allows you too turn the trips into a profit making exercise.


Again you are changing the conditions. The original poster did not
mention zero condition weapons. angrydog did not mention zero
condition weapons. I did not mention zero condition weapons. Only
in your second post ( and the 6th one overall ) is it suddenly about zero
condition weapons after I pointed out how you were wrong.
---END QUOTATION---

The way to do it in vanilla is to stash the higher value guns that are not cost friendly repairable and then once the route is open ship them to Pripyat where repairs are free and then ship them back to sell.
---QUOTATION---

meant zero condition weapons you should have said that in your very
first post so again there would not be confusion and misunderstanding.
As I have pointed out, since 99% of questions in the past 5 years have
been about damaged weapons in general and not zero condition weapons,
it appears it is convenient to change what you vaguely said to begin with.
Rather than admitting you were wrong you simply changed the conditions.

The original poster did not specifically mention SVDs & Grozas. angrydog
did not specifically mention SVDs & Grozas. I did not specifically mention
SVDs & Grozas. Only in your second post ( and the 6th one overall ) is it
suddenly about SVDs & Grozas.
---END QUOTATION---

They were example, I said such as those weapons, I never made this only about Zaton, nor did the OP and as I've already said it's not all about you or what you post
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As the beginning Player does not find
these weapons in Zaton from fighting the Bandits or looting any dead
Loners, you are now talking about weapons that don't come until Jupiter.
Most every single damaged weapons question I've ever read has to do
with the beginning Player in Zaton finding weapons that the Trader won't
buy. As the Player quickly discovers that the use of a grenade will heavily
damage a weapon, most Players I have known refrain from using them
so they can recover weapons to sell without having to repair them. As
you have changed the conditions to talk about zero condition weapons,
only you are talking about this. I never was. Zero condition weapons
are probably about 1% to 2% of what the Player encounters. As I was
talking about ALL weapons the Traders won't buy if damaged, I am
talking about a much larger amount of weapons and the conditions
needed to repair them without having to travel to Pripyat at the end of
the Game. Maybe your playing style is different. Maybe you are poor
at tactics, a bad shot and you grenade everything to make up for that.
In that case you probably have a huge amount of zero condition guns
you have looted. Since you didn't talk about that from the beginning
there was no way for anyone to know before you changed the conditions.
---END QUOTATION---

This is the same stuff again, Repeating yourself does not make it right
---QUOTATION---


If you knew anything about the Game you would know how to get free
repairs BEFORE you go to Pripyat. I'm not sharing that information with
you since you think you know it all and have just changed the conditions
of what you meant when you were wrong and then try to blame me for that.

TS
---END QUOTATION---

Nice try.
  10:23:05  26 December 2014
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S3r1ous
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1. Realistic - very few people in real world really want to buy your rusted and broken equipment
2. Balanced - you no longer will be hoarding weapons around and getting rich just by looting weapons from 1 big firefight
  11:09:39  26 December 2014
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Tejas Stalker
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Message edited by:
Tejas Stalker
12/26/2014 11:22:56
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Sell Damaged weapons

S3r1ous:

---QUOTATION---

1. Realistic - very few people in real world really
want to buy your rusted and broken equipment

2. Balanced - you no longer will be hoarding weapons around
and getting rich just by looting weapons from 1 big firefight

---END QUOTATION---



S3r1ous~

Yes, it is kind of funny to sell all those used and slightly damaged
weapons back to the Traders. I mean they can be used for parts or
sold to others but the Game ( SoC ) doesn't allow the NPCs to buy used
weapons from the Player or the NPCs to buy better weapons from the Traders.

Thankfully CoP is improved by the Player being able to sell weapons directly
to the NPCs ( their only chance to get better weapons ) other than dropped.
One quickly learns that NPCs will pay better than the Traders for high end
weapons ( that makes sense ) and always pay better for the ammunition.

Let's not forget one can get rich just by going out and looting after an emission.

TS
  12:21:17  26 December 2014
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S3r1ous
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---QUOTATION---


S3r1ous~

Yes, it is kind of funny to sell all those used and slightly damaged
weapons back to the Traders. I mean they can be used for parts or
sold to others but the Game ( SoC ) doesn't allow the NPCs to buy used
weapons from the Player or the NPCs to buy better weapons from the Traders.

Thankfully CoP is improved by the Player being able to sell weapons directly
to the NPCs ( their only chance to get better weapons ) other than dropped.
One quickly learns that NPCs will pay better than the Traders for high end
weapons ( that makes sense ) and always pay better for the ammunition.

Let's not forget one can get rich just by going out and looting after an emission.

TS
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Well in Pripyat Reborn NPCs loot anything they kill, so i'm slightly biased by that, but yeah i see how it works in vanilla.
  14:17:14  28 December 2014
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Tejas Stalker
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Sell Damaged weapons

S3r1ous:

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Well in Pripyat Reborn NPCs loot anything they kill, so i'm
slightly biased by that, but yeah i see how it works in vanilla.

---END QUOTATION---



In CoP the NPCs loot other NPCs if they get to them first before you.

TS
  23:31:10  28 December 2014
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MTGunslinger
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Nasha is right and it works before freeplay is available. The military will do free repairs as well and some items are not available BEFORE you go to pripyat. You can easily have a good haul by doing what Nasha suggested.
  02:51:25  15 December 2015
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Actually in short, i don't know any mod about selling damaged weapons. Already achievements provide many easiness you found and usually it cares about traders too. For example "One Of Ours, Boss, A Man Of Balance, A Friend Of Stalkers etc. are relevant. For advice, it's highly recommended you can combine One Of Ours and A Friend Of Stalkers achievements at same time. Both of are have great trading effects. You can make some money with them freely.

In addition you can try to make a "Trafficker Of Information" achievement if you often travel to Zaton. Maybe Owl be your best trader in the Zaton. You need to sell 10 documents or PDA's to Owl. But remember Giving is not Selling. You may bore if you try to do that but this gives you a great map exploring advantage.

So you need to explore the maps and prepare yourself for making side missions and their different scenarios. Actually selling artifacts is best shortcut but sometimes they need at certain side missions like Garry so i don't prefer to sell. I only sell weapons and some valuable rounds (if valuable) I think it isn't any mean when played the game fast. So you missed many many things. At last it's only up to you. Good hunting
  16:19:01  25 March 2018
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So here I am in the Skadovsk having a beer while I wipe sweat off my
forehead with my sleeve.
I'm dead tired, pissed off and casually talking with some of the other
stalkers.

"Ive been in this friggin COC place, bustin my arse looting for a 12
friggin days, and I can't find one friggin place for a bath or shower". I grumble.

Chuckling with satiric mirth, Fast says.
"Use the lakes and puddles Ding."

"Yeah right." I reply. Seems to me some nit could put a rain water
bladder, Lord knows we get friggin rain here, above one of these cubicles
and call it a shower."

"Right." Sasha quips sarcastically. "And then that friggin bandit Owl will
charge thousands of rubes for it even though he gets the water free."

General grumbling of agreement erupts around the deck.

"In addition to that, I still haven't found squat for toilet paper either. Not
even a friggin corn cob and by the way, I'll pay big for that if any of you
goons happen to have one. UNUSED! My arse is killin me!"

Laughter and chuckles erupt around the room along with the usual, "use
your hand" and "try a burrer" replies.

"Incidentally." I tentatively start out, warry to not attract a great deal of
attention with my next question.
"I have accumulated some weapons in various conditions less than perfect.
Anybody know where I can off load them?

"Owl is the only guy buying anything on Skadovsk and he has no
interest in anything that isn't in perfect condition and pays crap for it to
boot." Tasha starts whining.

Gunslinger, looking over some new maps he has, says over his shoulder.
“The military will do free repairs as well and some items are not available BEFORE you go to pripyat. You can easily have a good haul by doing what Nasha suggested.

“What was that?” I ask. “I missed that.”

“I simply said.” Nasha starts out. “That certain weapons have zero condition and are not repairable even with maximum discounts. Those can be taken to Pripyat and repaired for free, then brought back and sold for pure profit.

"By the way.” Forsha throws out.
"Owl buys ammo too. Don't pay much for it as other Stalker will but he buys it."

"Yeah. I already got that." I reply, wondering about Pripyat and if there might be trouble
between Owl & Beard.
"What blows my mind here is that Beard, who used to buy and sell all
conditions of stuff, is not only not buying anything anymore, he's selling
nothing but energy drinks and won't talk about it.
What's up with that?" I ask.

"Yeah. That is odd isn't it?" Torscha adds. "Maybe he's scared of something?"

Delerium, staring fixedly at his half full beer, says without raising his head
in his frustratingly, broken English.
"I don't know any much about selling damaged weapons. Already
achievements provide many easiness you found and usually it cares
about traders too. For example "One Of Ours, Boss, A Man Of Balance,
A Friend Of Stalkers etc. are relevant.
For advice, it's highly recommended you can combine One Of Ours and
A Friend Of Stalkers achievements at same time.
Both of are have great trading effects. You can make some money with
them freely.

In addition you can try to make a Trafficker Of Information achievement
if you often travel to Zaton. Maybe Owl be your best trader in the Zaton.
You need to sell 10 documents or PDA's to Owl. But remember Giving is
not Selling.
You may bore if you try to do that but this gives you a great map
exploring advantage.

"What the frig is he talking about?" I wonder, as he rambles on without
ever raising his head.

"So you need to explore the maps." Delirium continues. "And prepare
yourself for making side missions and their different scenarios.
Actually selling artifacts is best shortcut but sometimes they
need at certain side missions like Garry so i don't prefer to sell. I only
sell weapons and some valuable rounds (if valuable) I think it isn't any
mean when played the game fast. So you missed many many things. At
last it's only up to you."
Good hunting." He sums up.

"Explore the maps huh." I wonder.
Maybe tomorrow I'll head over to the dredge and find a clear spot to
wash up, then go see what I can find in another of the maps.
Tonight I think I'll just finish my beer and get some shut eye.
Jeez, Why did I come here again?
  17:36:41  27 March 2018
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Handyman454
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PART TWO: Repairing Weapons

PART TWO: Repairing Weapons

"Hey Handy." Tejas starts off. "You've picked the most difficult area to
start out as a Loner bub."

"What?" I reply. "Hows that?"

"Unlike last year." He begins. (CoC 1.3 and earlier) "you no longer make
money from repairing and selling guns.
Nobody wants to spend on them now.
Too many available everywhere now so stop collecting them.
None of the traders or Stalkers will buy them unless they are in top
condition anymore.
Get rid of them." He drones on.

"You make your money now from doing tasks and selling excess supplies
like ammo and you get rewards from finding activated stashes."

"Plus. You're in a dead zone here Handy." He syas. "Zaton, Jupiter and Pripyat (CoP version) have almost no stashes except for a couple in
each at most."

"All the activated stashes are in the SoC & Clear Sky maps like these."
He says, holding up the maps he was looking at. "Go south for stashes.
Get out of the north.

"AND." He continues. "Stashes are where you get the Basic, Advance &
Expert Tools from. You won't find them here like you did before."

"South huh." I wonder.
"South it is I guess.
Why did I come here again?"
 
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