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  19:44:35  25 January 2009
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{imperialreign}
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killing crows - vanilla style

I'm sure it's been mentioned before - but for anyone that has forgotten . . . it IS possible to kill crows in a vanilla game, although difficult.

First, you'll need a good assortment of grenades. I prefer F1s as they have a little better blast radius.

Next, you'll have to find somewhere that a large group of crows seem to mill about:
[link]http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/8605/crowblast01lx8.jpg[/link]


then, ready your grenade, and reel-back for a nice, long throw:
[link]http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/2359/crowblast02zz5.jpg[/link]


when it seems like a good number of crows are flying towards the middle of the screen, let it fly:
[link]http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/9685/crowblast03qr2.jpg[/link]


the grenade will detonate before hitting the ground:
[link]http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/6995/crowblast04tu0.jpg[/link]


and with a bit of luck, the blast will take down a crow (or two):
[link]http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/2985/crowblast05uc7.jpg[/link]





*no mods installed that allow for this to be possible - only some textures installed.
  02:43:34  26 January 2009
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Acolyte
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Well done. What texture mod are you using?
  03:12:13  26 January 2009
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Well done. What texture mod are you using?
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Argus' photoreal tex pack, skies are from trojan's weather-overhaul WIP
  10:06:31  26 January 2009
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Kaidonni
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You're using a grenade? A grenade?! My boy, you oughta whip out your sawn-off or another shotgun, because that's the way to do it. I've managed it that way (I play OL 2.2 plus some other submods, but it shouldn't make any difference). You wouldn't use a grenade to fish, would you? Oh, wait...you probably would.
  11:51:38  26 January 2009
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I think the point being made is that it is not possible to do it with a shotgun in vanilla!!!
  14:52:17  26 January 2009
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I think the point being made is that it is not possible to do it with a shotgun in vanilla!!!
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yep - that's the point I was trying to make.

There are mods that allow for "killable" crows in SoC, but no weapon in a vanilla loadout will do so - except for hand grenades.
  16:18:53  26 January 2009
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Kaidonni
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Erm...wow...what a humiliating moment... *tosses grenade into topic and legs it*
  07:56:19  27 March 2011
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I appologize for reviving such an old thread, but this is something I must know.

Why are crows only vulnerable to grenades and is there any way for me to change this with a hex editor?

The crow certainly has the death animations, and the key is in the model, because that's all the AMK mod really modifies.

I ask because I was never a fan of the AMK crow, and I'd rather have the black crow from the original game in my mod.

The CS/CoP model is different and there's that compatibility issue. I'd convert the thing if I had the tools and knowledge.

Edit: Well, after finally installing the SDK and fooling around with the original and the AMK crow, I see the only difference is a box shape attatched to the root bone, that serves as a hit box.

I edited the original mesh to add a box and that works.

As for why only the grenade worked in the original mesh, my assumption is the grenade blast could actually hit the tiny articulation bones, something that would've been impossible with a bullet.

I'll upload the edited mesh to filefront.
 
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