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  20:23:57  21 January 2015
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Tranquil.Suit
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I want to play STALKER (best vanilla)

Hi, I bought the STALKER series on GOG. And now I'm looking for THE BEST STALKER EXPERIENCE.

I got a couple of questions about it. Answers are appreciated.


1) Consider the 3 games in original form (unmodded). I've gathered that CoP is the best game of the three. Should I play all 3 in order or should I just play the last one (CoP)? Basically, in terms of game design, how different are SoC, CS from CoP?


2) If the answer to 1) is that they're basically the same game, and you add the best vanilla mods to each, does CoP+ remain the best of the three? By the way, mods that add game features which were originally intended but not implemented, I still count as vanilla mods.
  22:12:57  21 January 2015
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Tejas Stalker
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I want to play STALKER (best vanilla)

Tranquil.Suit~

Welcome to the GSC Forums!

Play in this order:

Shadow of Chernobyl ( 2007 )
Clear Sky ( 2008 )
Call of Pripyat ( 2009 )

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  23:02:54  21 January 2015
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No idea where you got the idea that CoP is the best of the three (now four as we have Dez0wave's excellent 'Lost Alpha'). They are all equally superb games.

First has to be SoC or you'll never pick up on the storyline. Then the prequel, CS. Then CoP, which, with the cancellation of Stalker 2 has left the storyline hanging in mid-air on many points. There is talk now that Stalker 2 may be back on the developers screens.

As to mods, how will you know what a mod has added, taken away, spoiled or improved unless you've been through each game first totally vanilla? It is definintely the way to go. Just patch up SoC to 1.0004/5, whatever is your choice (I find that 1.0004 is nice and stable) and off you go.

Beyond that there are a plethora of mods to choose from, but for SoC I would recommend the ZRP which is more of a bug-fix than a mod, though it does have its bells and whistles which you can choose to use or not - many of them are useful.

Good luck and good hunting, Stalker. You're going to need it.

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  12:47:26  22 January 2015
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Stalkerstein
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There is also SoC Complete that is basically the vanilla game fixed up, as far as I know.
  14:25:07  22 January 2015
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Three Mile Island
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Tranquil.Suit:

I've gathered that CoP is the best game of the three.
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No, it's the least good IMO (still very playable, though).


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Should I play all 3 in order or should I just play the last one (CoP)?
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Most people seem to suggest playing in the order they were released (SoC, CS and CoP).

Personally I played them in "storyline order" instead (that is, CS, SoC and CoP). The problem with that is that SoC looks older than CS - despite taking place later in time - which feels confusing to me.


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Basically, in terms of game design, how different are SoC, CS from CoP?
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-SoC and CoP often freeze for a few seconds, after which NPCs suddenly appear from thin air. In SoC this is caused by using stash boxes, I don't know any mod that fixes it. Perhaps a good CPU prevents it in CoP.

-CS and SoC are often more challenging than the more novice-oriented CoP. CS and SoC also share many similar locations, use the same music and contain many minor bugs (frequent manual saves are recommended).

-CS and CoP are more similar in game mechanics and graphics (CS is actually the best looking).

Like the others I suggest playing vanilla first before modding. Just make sure CS and SoC are patched.
  14:27:07  22 January 2015
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Three Mile Island
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Steelyglint:

(now four as we have Dez0wave's excellent 'Lost Alpha').
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Haven't played Lost Alpha, but I've read that its storyline retcons/contradicts that of the official Stalker games, is that correct? That could be confusing to a new player.
  15:58:11  25 January 2015
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LoNer1
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There is also SoC Complete that is basically the vanilla game fixed up, as far as I know.
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Wow, don't go there. Complete does WAY more than 'fixing' up the vanilla game. Also makes it way easier and kinda boring. It's nothing like Vanilla, actually.
  17:17:22  25 January 2015
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Steelyglint
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Steelyglint:

(now four as we have Dez0wave's excellent 'Lost Alpha').
Haven't played Lost Alpha, but I've read that its storyline retcons/contradicts that of the official Stalker games, is that correct? That could be confusing to a new player.
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It doesn't really contradict the SoC storyline. More like it has a completely new story that has nothing to do with the GSC story other than using the same resources to put the maps together. It is almost a matter of Stalker in another dimension.

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  20:23:17  25 January 2015
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Tejas Stalker
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I want to play STALKER (best vanilla)

People have a tendency to be most impressed and favor the most, the first
Stalker Game they play regardless of which of the three it happens to be.
This is understandable as if you've never been exposed to the immersion
and atmosphere of any of the Stalker Game it makes a big impression.

TS
  11:51:36  27 January 2015
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Charcharo
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There are 3 official STALKER games that exist in the same universe.

Shadow of Chernobyl (2007)
Clear Sky (2008)
Call of Pripyat (2009).

Play them in this order. Patched and with Reclamation mod. It is a bug fix mod, excellent for both SoC (Shadow of Chernobyl) and CS (Clear Sky).

Who told you Call of Pripyat was the best of the 3 ? Ohh its good, but still, skipping the other games is a mistake.

Lost Alpha is a fan made game and is not even close to completion yet. It is a free Early Access game at this point. It also is NOT cannon as it overrides Clear Sky and Shadow of Chernobyl. It is in a separate universe really.
My advice: Play the original games, they are long. When you are done with them, it might a good idea to check up whether Lost Alpha is in a better state. If not, there are MANY excellent mods out there that rival AAA expansion packs ans DLCs in quality.
 
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