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  13:09:10  10 May 2004
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In that case, in the localised american version, the english speakers will be Soviet and the russian talkers will be American
  13:38:05  10 May 2004
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And as to the Zone. Just like Mercanaries and Poachers people from all over the world will risk it all to strike it rich. I wouldn't be at all surprised to run into a Indian (from India) in the Zone in game.
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Thank you!
  13:48:21  10 May 2004
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Small comment here. If the above said is true then perhaps you can envision what the state of the IDF would be WITHOUT the billions of dollars in economic and military aid given each year to Israel by the United States. Talk about biting the hand that feeds you. Now that said the IDF being in nearly constant combat has taken United States hardware and upgraded it with amazing inginuity and effectiveness.(paid for with US military aid remember).


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Not thank you! I love America! I love it's people! I hate it's governor, though. And I hate it's army and combat methods. I don't know how it is in America, but here in Israel army is mandatory from the age of 18 to the age of 21 (driking is also permitted from the age 18, FYI). Americans have an army that, is, in my oppinion, could never match to Israel's in SKILLS. We at our army train like there's no tommorow, and take an equal number of US troops and place them against an equal number of Israeli troops and the numbers will speak for themselves. In my opinion, the American army is too technology-reliant and never gets enough combat action (fuck it, they live in the middle of the ocean with no enemies!).

Getting back to topic, what about rich southern-america stalkers who would like to order the guns they like and are used to be with.
  13:55:36  10 May 2004
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Not thank you! I love America! I love it's people! I hate it's governor, though. And I hate it's army and combat methods. I don't know how it is in America, but here in Israel army is mandatory from the age of 18 to the age of 21 (driking is also permitted from the age 18, FYI). Americans have an army that, is, in my oppinion, could never match to Israel's in SKILLS. We at our army train like there's no tommorow, and take an equal number of US troops and place them against an equal number of Israeli troops and the numbers will speak for themselves. In my opinion, the American army is too technology-reliant and never gets enough combat action (fuck it, they live in the middle of the ocean with no enemies!).
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Whew, those are big words for someone, thats never been through US military boot camp.
  14:04:04  10 May 2004
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Shit man, only thing you do in the military is sit with a cup o' coffe and read magazines... No offence off course.
  15:13:36  10 May 2004
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Shit man, only thing you do in the military is sit with a cup o' coffe and read magazines... No offence off course.
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We may not have mandatory service now (something I actually look as a good thing, your rewarded your freedom by ensuring it instead of thinking its a birth right) things will be different in 2005. There is already a new draft ages 18-30 nearly in completion that will be inacted whether Bush wins this years election or not. Its simply a matter of logistics our personnel are already overextended and recruiment is still at rock bottom, All the reserves have already been called up as well as some National Guard units.

Since our goverment seems intent on continuing our advancements into Iran and Syria along with the possibility of destabilization of Saudi Arabia and the growing threat of both North Korea and China its the only solution. China has already doubled its military buget in the past year and was just caught attempting espionage of US nuclear secrets again. And North Korea is well North Korea. Our logistics aren't any better, it makes you wonder how it would have ever been possible for us to fend off a Soviet assault considering the 3 day march on Bagdad exhausted our world wide supply of replacement tracks as well as our current ammunition stocks dangerously low.

That being said, I do admire the IDF not only for the resilience but their training and combat related flexibility. However, I do look at both sides of things and cannot see how using TOW missiles fired from a AH-1 Cobra into a crowd to kill a Hamas leader can be justified when a sharpshooter or a few round from the AH-1's 20mm cannon could have done the job with minimal bystanders getting killed/maimed/injured. Nor the Incident with the USS Liberty. Of course we are far from perfect, just look at the mess thats going on with the Iraqi prisons in our control. Its a sad sad world and only likely to get worse.
  16:29:00  10 May 2004
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Shit man, only thing you do in the military is sit with a cup o' coffe and read magazines... No offence off course.

We may not have mandatory service now (something I actually look as a good thing, your rewarded your freedom by ensuring it instead of thinking its a birth right) things will be different in 2005. There is already a new draft ages 18-30 nearly in completion that will be inacted whether Bush wins this years election or not. Its simply a matter of logistics our personnel are already overextended and recruiment is still at rock bottom, All the reserves have already been called up as well as some National Guard units.

Since our goverment seems intent on continuing our advancements into Iran and Syria along with the possibility of destabilization of Saudi Arabia and the growing threat of both North Korea and China its the only solution. China has already doubled its military buget in the past year and was just caught attempting espionage of US nuclear secrets again. And North Korea is well North Korea. Our logistics aren't any better, it makes you wonder how it would have ever been possible for us to fend off a Soviet assault considering the 3 day march on Bagdad exhausted our world wide supply of replacement tracks as well as our current ammunition stocks dangerously low.

That being said, I do admire the IDF not only for the resilience but their training and combat related flexibility. However, I do look at both sides of things and cannot see how using TOW missiles fired from a AH-1 Cobra into a crowd to kill a Hamas leader can be justified when a sharpshooter or a few round from the AH-1's 20mm cannon could have done the job with minimal bystanders getting killed/maimed/injured. Nor the Incident with the USS Liberty. Of course we are far from perfect, just look at the mess thats going on with the Iraqi prisons in our control. Its a sad sad world and only likely to get worse.
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A rather suprisingly good-spirited answer. I'm not saying your soldiers suck, it's just that they need to kick your ass in training. Trust me, I would feel much safer as a civilian if our troops would have been trained like in North Korea, without any pants in the snow freezing our balls off - but our country is rather decent like all the other europeanwestern contries and not a soviet one. And Sheikh Yassin should have died a long time ago by an invanding fleet of helicopters or whatever. Fuck him, man, America whatever the fuck she wants without asking anyone, and while I feel some sort of competion for the people dying with the Sheikh, It's a damn good thing and I glad our shitty Prime Minister had the gots to finally do it.
  17:20:20  10 May 2004
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I'd like to pose a hypothetical scenario to you, well before Reba jumps down our throats for going off topic. Anyway, you don't have to answer it, just think about it carefully and make your own conclusion.

Lets say Yassin at the time he was assasinated was not surrounded by a crowd of Palestinians leaving a mosque but rather the average crowd of Israeli's at a market. This crowd does not realize who Yassin is and is going about everyday life (yes very unlikely but it rules out a snap emotion decision to the question). Now would you see using such force to assasinate Yassin in a group of unwitting Israelis the same way you see how it truely happened?

All I'm asking is you to think about it, you don't need to answer if you do not feel like it.
  17:36:34  10 May 2004
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Well, for starters, you may need to realize that we have been looking for him for a long long time. Now, after you have found him, you would know that a sniper that would miss his target would cause much stir in the Islamic community, and next time he will both be highly guarded and will probably send suicide bombers. Hate those guys. See, so you may feel the need to go for a sure-fire kill. In fact, if that would have been necessary, I would have sacrifised me and my family in order to kill that bastard much, much earlier. Oh, and believe me, those dumb-ass phalastinians (spelling?) that died with him did know him.
  21:55:30  10 May 2004
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fellas i'm really sorry that so many of you are mad about the american weapons in stalker..

but they're already in the game!! XD

/wanders off laughing
 
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