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  17:04:39  1 August 2008
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thelast
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On forum: 04/30/2007
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Is it possible for this weapon pack to work with 1.006 ?
I got this error log:
FATAL ERROR

[error]Expression : fatal error
[error]Function : CStringTable::Load
[error]File : E:\stalker\sources\trunk\xr_3da\xrGame\string_table.cpp
[error]Line : 53
[error]Description : <no expression>
[error]Arguments : string table xml file not found ui_st_pda.xml, for language rus


stack trace:
  17:11:04  1 August 2008
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PLR
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Regarding accuracy though, the AK-47 series are generally less accurate due to the very poor quality of most 7.62x39 ammunition, especially surplus, not generally due to the rifle its self. I did not play a part in ammo values though so I will have to take a look.

I can take a look at it.

Also, do you give me permission to make my fixes on your wonderful work? I just want to make it a little better. If yo uwant, you can look over the finished product and see if you like it.

Like I said, I'll update the origins, impulses, damage, etc. I might leave the damage alone, but as I said, I want there to be barely any difference in damage between guns of the same caliber, to make it more realistic. Sadly, I can't make the damage of all calibers the SAME because that will unbalance the game, but there will be slight differences between let's say, a Walther P. 38 and a Bagira.
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I meant to give you permission last post. But regarding your damage, thats exactly how I have mine setup. There are small differences in each caliber when looking at muzzle velocity, but like I said, most of the time you cannot trust the ingame stat screen. It likes to break for some reason.


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true the 5.45 tumbles better but that is offset by the larger size of the 7.62
its size and speed causes a bit of a shock wave that tears the flesh it passes through causing as much damage as the 5.45 fragmenting and tumbling.

then you have body armor that is heavily used in the zone where the 7.62 wins without contest.

obviously the 7.62 needs to be better then the 5.45 in damage.

about the rifle's the AKS-74U has a shorter barrel making its accuracy and muzzle velocity lower then with any full length rifle like the AKM.
so the AKM would also win the accuracy department.

also those poor M43 7.62x39 munitions are almost impossible to get these days its only the newer M67 stuff you can get so you should ignore the M43's property's when calculating adequate damage for the weapons.
especially so when you consider that stalker takes place several years in the future.
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Making it better in damage is silly when you can make the bullet better in armor penetration instead. Which is what its actually better at.

Regardless, Im sure if 7.62x39 was as superior as everybody makes it out to be, they would have not completely abandoned designing service rifles in that round or similar round around the 60s. At least when talking about countries in the first/second world. If it came down to what teams of engineers who specifically design small arms came up with and what random people on the internet came up with, I would have to go with the engineers.
  17:34:53  1 August 2008
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Tugatoga
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  17:48:10  1 August 2008
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isaac newbie
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its indeed better to go with the engineers over random internet warriors.
but its best to go with those that have used these weapons in combat.
i have heard from friends in afghanistan (dutch soldiers stationed there) and a co-worker that fought in armenia during the inter ethnic conflict that started in feb 20 1988, that they all prefer the 7.62x39mm AK's over the unimpressive 5.56 NATO weapons.

but PLR all i am saying is that the 7.62x39 is just as good as the 5.56 against unarmored targets only random factors can make a difference but against armored targets or targets behind cover then the 7.62x39 is far superior.

edit: the reason why many army's adopted smaller calibers is because then their soldiers can bring more munitions with them for the same weight.
this has some merit but it obviously did not help with lethality which is why the U.S army is looking at a new intermediary bullet resulting in the 6.5 Grendel round.
so there you have it even the U.S army is not very satisfied with the current 5.56 rounds in use.
  18:14:57  1 August 2008
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PLR
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Thats why 7.62x39 does less damage, but not so much less that it wont easily drop an enemy if you hit in the chest or vital organs, like the real thing. The problem with 7.62x39 is that it wont yaw unless it hits something meaty. The AKM should easily drop enemies in a few shots as long as you're not hitting them in the legs or something.
  18:17:29  1 August 2008
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darksmaster923
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The thing is, the 5.56 round has a tumbling effect. If you shot someone with a 7.62 in the leg, they wouldn't die. If you shot them in the leg with a 5.56, they have a chance that they would die, cause the bullet shatters into pieces inside the body.
  18:38:01  1 August 2008
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TristanYockell
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Regarding accuracy though, the AK-47 series are generally less accurate due to the very poor quality of most 7.62x39 ammunition, especially surplus, not generally due to the rifle its self. I did not play a part in ammo values though so I will have to take a look.

I can take a look at it.

Also, do you give me permission to make my fixes on your wonderful work? I just want to make it a little better. If yo uwant, you can look over the finished product and see if you like it.

Like I said, I'll update the origins, impulses, damage, etc. I might leave the damage alone, but as I said, I want there to be barely any difference in damage between guns of the same caliber, to make it more realistic. Sadly, I can't make the damage of all calibers the SAME because that will unbalance the game, but there will be slight differences between let's say, a Walther P. 38 and a Bagira.
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You can change the Damage levels and velocities of course based on the firearms particular barrel length.

It wont be much difference but It will be realistic.

Of course for example the AKS74U is going to loose around 400 FPS due to such a short barrel versus other 5.45x39mm chambered guns.

Hmm I may start messing with the values again as well, this has made me hungry.

Of course they will be strickly for my own use enless other wise allowed to share with select people.
  19:00:26  1 August 2008
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Tugatoga
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There's a fix for Arsenal RC1

http://stg536.ifolder.ru/download/?7551011&3Y/m6nxbieZHOByuGZ+fHA==

The link should work, I live in Missouri and it worked just fine for me.


Fix 1 for ARSENAL MOD RC1 readme

Are introduced sleduyushchii of the change:

- usual stalkers now do not buy weapon on the exorbitant price.
- is corrected departure with the murder of "Skinflint" in "Army Warehouses"
  19:01:04  1 August 2008
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thelast
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On forum: 04/30/2007
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thelast you got mail
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Thank you very much! It works now, gonna start a new game, so I can try the new weapons from the beginning.
  19:24:34  1 August 2008
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