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  08:35:59  1 August 2008
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BAC9-FLCL
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Also, for future projects regarding conversions, why not try player models? Just needs editing to bones and possibly adding some.
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Best community modellers tried to create working stalker skeleton and failed.

So if you know, how to create it properly - you're welcome. But if not, please do not ask to add new NPC models, it's still impossible =\
  09:07:05  1 August 2008
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Siro
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Okay, my thoughts on the mod.

I love the fact that alot of AK's were added, especially the AK-100's and many other Russian weapons.

Still, not all of them fit in. I agree that there are a little too many AK's, the AK-100's really shouldn't be in this number. Just keep the AKM-74 , the AK-103, and AK 108. A 5.56mm AK-101? What is the point? But hell, if you really have to, keep all the AK variants. Much more authentic that way, but at leat have some aesthetic differences with them texture-wise.

But as for other AK's...maybe more is better. Variety is good. Like in real life, one guy might have an AK with a modified grip or more worn than others, another might have the same gun with slight differences, etc. That is why I think the different AK47 and '74 types should stay.

Now, many other guns don't fit in. Why the hell would someone drag a FAMAS and M-16 all the way to the Zone?

If you're going to have those weapons in at all, just let 1 or 2 guys have them, makes it more plausible, but when so many people run with guns you KNOW you're never going to find in the Ukraine, it ruins the immersion.

So, a list of the guns I think that should be removed (well, just in a seperate mod for us hardcore realism fans), it's not complete, but the most glaring ones are in here:

FA MAS F1
FA MAS G2
FA MAS Prototype 3
IMI Galil AR
IMI Galil ARM
IMI Galil MAR
Colt M4A1
Colt M16A1
Colt M16A2
Colt M16A3
Colt M16A4
SIG SG552 Commando
HK XM8
MK XM8 Para
Glock 18C Expert
IMI GALATZ

All the other guns not mentioned fit perfectly in the game in my opinion. The ones in the list are ones I have never seen in Russia at all. The ones not in the list I have seen either on sale or at gun-shows here. And I've to quite alot of them to know which guns they import and which they do not.

The M16's may be forgiven for this because there ARE Nato troops in Ukraine, so who knows? Someone might have stolen a few of their rifles.

The optional weapon skins kick ass for most weapons, lots of variety.

The downside is that not all skins are great. Most of them are just really really bad or unrealistic. Alot of the guns are pitch-black, you can't see any detail on them. At all. Even in real life, black guns are not this dark and unrecognizable. They seriously need to be lightened a little.

That said, there are quite a few mistakes skin-wise. Ejection ports on AK's should NEVER BE SILVER. EVER. Only "modified" old AK's can be forgiven for having them. ANY AK-74 model and AKS47 should not have them. AK47 can be forgiven.

The animations for the AK's are really disappointing. Seriously. Horrible clipping issues and it just feels realyl bad and generic when each gun has the same anim.

Origins also seriously need to be updated.

And alot of the weapons have model issues where you can see "hoels" through them, like the Saiga 12K and PM. You can see holes in the model where light shines through.

That said, this mod is great. All those that worked on it did a great job.

I am willing to work on some of the textures, improve them a little. As of now, some don't look that good or are too dark, no offense to those that made them.

I will be working on this when I get photoshop.

And seriously, guys, great job. Thank you.

I also hope you address some of my concerns in the next version.
  09:16:24  1 August 2008
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weapon
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Anyone willing to share what they did to make this work with ZRP?
  09:24:03  1 August 2008
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Sgt Doom
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ONow, many other guns don't fit in. Why the hell would someone drag a FAMAS and M-16 all the way to the Zone?

If you're going to have those weapons in at all, just let 1 or 2 guys have them, makes it more plausible, but when so many people run with guns you KNOW you're never going to find in the Ukraine, it ruins the immersion.

So, a list of the guns I think that should be removed (well, just in a seperate mod for us hardcore realism fans), it's not complete, but the most glaring ones are in here:

FA MAS F1
FA MAS G2
FA MAS Prototype 3
IMI Galil AR
IMI Galil ARM
IMI Galil MAR
Colt M4A1
Colt M16A1
Colt M16A2
Colt M16A3
Colt M16A4
SIG SG552 Commando
HK XM8
MK XM8 Para
Glock 18C Expert
IMI GALATZ

All the other guns not mentioned fit perfectly in the game in my opinion. The ones in the list are ones I have never seen in Russia at all. The ones not in the list I have seen either on sale or at gun-shows here. And I've to quite alot of them to know which guns they import and which they do not.

The M16's may be forgiven for this because there ARE Nato troops in Ukraine, so who knows? Someone might have stolen a few of their rifles.
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I'd say those weapons were in the Zone for much the same reason as the L85A2, dumped on the black market as the countries that used them replaced them with something more suitable to their needs. As for the XM8, who knows? Perhaps in a few years the project is resurrected and a few lucky STALKERs get their hands on them.
  10:27:56  1 August 2008
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Siro
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Well, yeah. That sounds plausible.

I'm not complaining.

I also noticed alot of inaccuracies on some guns. The bottom of bakelite magazines like on the AKs74u should be black with the rest orange.

And there are alot of plastic mags colorored orange with the ridges like on a typical BLACK AK74. That is wrong. Either it's (bright) orange without the ridges, or it's black with the ridges. Green grips and mags are okay, I saw them on sale.

If the case with the Black Market is true, then the older guns should not look new. They should look worn and like they've been used, like the L85 default.

I can fix all of these problems. When I start skinning again, I'll tweak the guns to make them more realistic and worn for Stalker. With permission from the authors, of course. I might just also update the origins so you see more of the guns.

Is that okay if I release it, BAC?
  11:37:56  1 August 2008
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Acerbus
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I don't think that any guns should be removed from the mod. The zone population is made out of a rag-tag group of outlaws and thrill-seekers, plus some special forces personnel from all over the world. Everything has to be smuggled into the zone, so it wouldn't make sense that there would be some bulk orders of guns delivered into the zone so that everyone could have relatively uniform weapons.

Perhaps organized groups like the army, duty, maybe mercs and scientists should have some uniformity, but they would still modify their weapons by personal preferences.

More loose groups like freedom, bandits, and especially lone stalkers should enjoy far more diversity in their weapons. After all, many would have taken weapons to the zone from where they came from and smugglers wouldn't bring in large quantities of the same guns, they would bring whatever they could get their hands on, many different guns in small amounts.

Ok, perhaps it doesn't make sense that some of the NATO guns and AK-100's would be so widely spread, but that doesn't mean they have to be cut from the mod. They could just be rarer, maybe 10 stalkers in the entire zone would have them, maybe you could only find them in stashes or something. It is unrealistic that there are so many rare guns so readily available, but it would be even more unrealistic if there weren't any rare guns at all in a place like the zone.
  11:48:05  1 August 2008
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BAC9-FLCL
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Is that okay if I release it, BAC?
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Of course. To say straight, all of such future skins for those weapons can be included in the mod as optional pack
  12:16:44  1 August 2008
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PLR
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08/01/2008 12:35:35
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How are people liking the configs? They are not exactly my best work as most of it was done in a pinch for time but I am willing to improve them.

I meant to work on an English stringtable among other things but work and other things have caught up with me.
  13:06:41  1 August 2008
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isaac newbie
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How are people liking the configs? They are not exactly my best work as most of it was done in a pinch for time but I am willing to improve them.

I meant to work on an English stringtable among other things but work and other things have caught up with me.
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i have not been able to play this yet but i did read on the AMK english forum in the AMK Arsenal thread that your AK74U is more powerful and accurate then an AK47 so that certainly has to be a mistake.
  13:30:01  1 August 2008
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