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  19:59:49  13 July 2007
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Mad_Murdock
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Mad_Murdock
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Vista Quicksave (and maybe some others) Crash - Fix
**note This was reported before by OZgamer and on target 600 back in March**

I started playing Stalker under Vista32 again, as I was trying to do some benchmarking and test. And I started getting the crash on Quicksaves. I thought it was somehting I have changed, since I just played it for 4 hours under Vista64.

I have 3GB of ram, but the Xray error logs report an "out of memory error". But what it really means is out of Virtual memory.

Here is the Error you should see in teh xray_username.log.

[error]Expression : fatal error
[error]Function : _out_of_memory
[error]File : D:xray-svnxrCorexrDebugNew.cpp
[error]Line : 358
[error]Description : <no expression>
[error]Arguments : Out of memory. Memory request: 8192 K

I was using Process Explorer to see what the program was doing and it was only reporting 1.4GB of physical ram in use, but as you'll see in this snapshot, the Virtual memory was just over 2GB.
http://images.filecloud.com/520231/out_of_memory.jpg

The reason the error is so random, is because not all the levels consume that much space. In this case, Cordon and Army Warehouse are the two places I can exceed 2GB. and fairly fast as you see the game was only running for 2 minutes when it maxed out. Which is why I could do 50 quicksaves, but 51 might crash. If you do the quicksave, while your under 2GB of virtual memory, it's fine, do the quicksave after you exceed it and BAM ! CTD !

There are two fixes one has. Lower the textures and lighting or for Vista, use the increaseuserVA switch. Which funny enough I had on before and took it off (which explains why I didn't have this problem before)
The full command to run from an Elevated Command prompt (means run as admin) is
bcdedit /Set IncreaseUserVa 3072

After adding this option back in, I can quicksave all I want when exceeding 2GB.

So far, I've not been able to get XP to exceed the 2GB virtual memory usage, or at least I didn't quicksave during the times it did.

Here's an article about the 32bit OS 2GB virtual address limit. (first posted by MamiyaOtaru
in the general forum)
http://www.anandtech.com/gadgets/showdoc.aspx?i=3034

You can get process Explorer from Microsoft here
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sysinternals/Utilities/ProcessExplorer.mspx

Running an "elevated" command prompt (aka run as admin)
http://images1.filecloud.com/520296/elevated_command_prompted.jpg
  14:39:48  21 July 2007
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lockload
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07/21/2007 15:00:10
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thanks running bcdedit /Set IncreaseUserVa 3072 works for me not crashing now

Is running bcdedit /Set IncreaseUserVa 3072 a one off activity or do i need to do it every time?
  18:07:08  21 July 2007
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Mad_Murdock
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Is running bcdedit /Set IncreaseUserVa 3072 a one off activity or do i need to do it every time?
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It's a one time setting. Everytime you boot it will use that enviroment variable until you remove it
  17:11:41  22 July 2007
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lockload
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Is running bcdedit /Set IncreaseUserVa 3072 a one off activity or do i need to do it every time?

It's a one time setting. Everytime you boot it will use that enviroment variable until you remove it
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well since making the change ive had no crashes
  21:55:37  4 August 2007
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Master Conker
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thanks running bcdedit /Set IncreaseUserVa 3072 works for me not crashing now

Is running bcdedit /Set IncreaseUserVa 3072 a one off activity or do i need to do it every time?
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so at the command prompt screen i put the bcdedit and close exit the thing and im done?
  22:00:19  4 August 2007
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Master Conker
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thanks running bcdedit /Set IncreaseUserVa 3072 works for me not crashing now

Is running bcdedit /Set IncreaseUserVa 3072 a one off activity or do i need to do it every time?
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  01:18:01  5 August 2007
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jmb
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so at the command prompt screen i put the bcdedit and close exit the thing and im done?
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No. You must re-boot the machine.
  16:51:47  23 August 2007
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Tbag
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i think i have this crash but i have it for all saves ... it crashes to desktop evrything i quick save or press ESC and save threw there it crashs aswell very gay !!! Any suggestions ?
  19:15:35  26 February 2008
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Alastair Taylor
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My game also crashes when quicksaving, and occasionally when saving through the menu. I've had the game since Christmas and this problem has only occurred recently, within the last few weeks. I don't understand what Mad Murdock is saying, I try not to fiddle with computers as I know I'll do more harm than good!!! Is it possible for someone to tell me what to do in simple steps an idiot like me will understand?

thanks
  09:18:36  28 February 2008
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NatVac
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Hmmm. Looks like FileCloud no longer has that picture.

If the problem is happening in Army Warehouses, you might be able to squeak by simply by reducing the settings and using static lighting on that level.

I would suggest that you find a friend who has a bent for computers and/or Windows and show them that post. I can't help; I don't communicate well enough to speak in simple terms, I don't have Vista, and I've not done this operation, so I don't know what trouble you'd have to go through to get admin rights on Vista. You might need the admin password, for instance.
 
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