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Gaddafi
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all the other that want Gaddafi dead
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  04:33:59  23 October 2011
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DrSwizz
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Kane: What you wrote sounds like an echo of the typical "propaganda" in western media; It is simply not true. Do yourself a favour and do some googling for information that is not horribly distorted or skewed (for example Cynthia McKinney did some reporting from within Libya when the war was still going on).
  16:31:29  23 October 2011
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The Walking Ghost
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I was reading soemwhere saying that UN wants to investigate Gaddafi's death and the circunstances of how he was killed alleging human rights infringements. Forgive me for the possible lack of information, but I don't remember UN investigating Bin Laden's death, I mean, an angry lybian crowd can't kill a dictator, but an american tactical team can simply blast a hole through a target and nobody makes questions.
  19:06:38  23 October 2011
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nashathedog
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I was reading soemwhere saying that UN wants to investigate Gaddafi's death and the circunstances of how he was killed alleging human rights infringements. Forgive me for the possible lack of information, but I don't remember UN investigating Bin Laden's death, I mean, an angry lybian crowd can't kill a dictator, but an american tactical team can simply blast a hole through a target and nobody makes questions.
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Unfortunately theres nothing to investigate when the Americans are stood proud saying "We did this" There is no doubting how ,who, or why in Bin Laden's case. And no it may not be right but the facts surrounding who killed him and the circumstances of the killing are known.
  23:18:45  23 October 2011
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aeru87
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJURNC0e6Ek
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iw5Ij_RFJ1Q&feature=related

I'll just leave this here
  22:29:26  24 October 2011
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DooMike
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Islamic-Democracy?

"...Two words combined that can´t make sense..."

Latest piece of news according to Danish media:

It seems that the people who are now taking over Libya, represented by head of temp.gov. Mustapha Abdel Jalil, want Sharia Law as the foundation for their legislation...

I´ll just leave this here...

Before the inevitable: Are you fucking kidding me?! How the f... could they ( the west of course ) not know this would happen?!

This Mustapha-character have later stated that something in the nature of: "We Libyans are MODERATE muslims..."

Riiiiight!

Who here or everywhere ever heard of moderate Sharia law?
  07:45:33  25 October 2011
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nashathedog
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---QUOTATION---
Islamic-Democracy?

"...Two words combined that can´t make sense..."

Latest piece of news according to Danish media:

It seems that the people who are now taking over Libya, represented by head of temp.gov. Mustapha Abdel Jalil, want Sharia Law as the foundation for their legislation...

I´ll just leave this here...

Before the inevitable: Are you fucking kidding me?! How the f... could they ( the west of course ) not know this would happen?!

This Mustapha-character have later stated that something in the nature of: "We Libyans are MODERATE muslims..."

Riiiiight!

Who here or everywhere ever heard of moderate Sharia law?
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Was this partly what it was about, The west wanting to be seen as supporting such a regime in order to quell the anti-muslim claims.
Was Gaddaffi a victim of merely being in the right(or wrong) faction allowing them to kill two birds with one stone.

My government does not deserve my support or anyones. They should not be involving themselves in situations like this. Normal people are now slowly starting to feel the knock on effects from the poor governmental desicions of recent years. Our standard of living is falling as one example of it. Healthcare, schooling, they are all suffering from bad leadership.

I cannot trust them, nor what they tell me.
  15:42:37  25 October 2011
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Ancient
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Gaddafi was right:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtGcQIK5Hig&feature=player_embedded

Top Libyan Rebel Leader Has Deep Al Qaeda Ties:

http://www.worldcrunch.com/top-libyan-rebel-leader-has-deep-al-qaeda-ties/3661

For U.S. intelligence services, the man who led the rebel assault on Tripoli, and is now the de facto military governor of the capital, is an old acquaintance. The CIA had tracked down the accused jihadist, and eventually captured him in Malaysia in 2003. The agency is believed to have then transferred him, in total silence, to a “top secret” prison in Bangkok.

At that time, Abdel Hakim Belhadj, identified under the name of Abu Abdallah al-Sadek, born May 1, 1966, was already known for his long history as a jihad operative. This career began in 1988 in Afghanistan, like many other Islamist activists.

However if the CIA wanted him, it’s first because he was one of the founders, and even the “emir” of the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group (LIFG), a small highly radical organization, which prior to Sept. 11 had two secret training camps in Afghanistan. The CIA was extremely interested in one of them, Shahid Cheikh Abu Yahya, about 19 miles north of Kabul, where the LIFG welcomed volunteers who had links with Al Qaeda.


http://www.un.org/sc/committees/1267/NSQE1101E.shtml

The Libyan Islamic Fighting Group was listed on 6 October 2001 pursuant to paragraph 8(c) of resolution 1333 (2000) as being associated with Al-Qaida, Usama bin Laden or the Taliban for “participating in the financing, planning, facilitating, preparing or perpetrating of acts or activities by, in conjunction with, under the name of, on behalf or in support of”, “supplying, selling or transferring arms and related materiel to” or “otherwise supporting acts or activities of” Al-Qaida (QE.A.4.01), Usama bin Laden (QI.B.8.01) and the Taliban.

Additional information:

The Libyan Islamic Fighting Group (LIFG) is an Al-Qaida (QE.A.4.01) affiliate. It was created in 1995 by Libyans who had fought in Afghanistan and had plotted against the Government of Libya. LIFG participated with the Moroccan Islamic Combatant Group (QE.M.89.02) in planning the May 2003 bombings in Casablanca, Morocco, that killed over 40 people and injured more than 100. LIFG has also been linked to the 2004 attacks in Madrid, Spain.

In 2002, Al-Qaida leader Zayn al-Abidin Muhammad Hussein (QI.H.10.01), also known as Abu Zubaydah, was captured in Faisalabad, Pakistan, accompanied by at least three LIFG operatives and a fourth individual, the former head of the Sanabel Relief Agency Limited (QE.S.124.06) in Kabul, Afghanistan, who was also known to have ties to LIFG. LIFG commanders, including Abu Yahya al-Liby and the now-deceased Abu al-Laith al-Liby, have occupied prominent positions within Al-Qaida’s senior leadership.

On 3 November 2007, LIFG formally merged with Al-Qaida. The merger was announced via two video clips produced by Al-Qaida’s propaganda arm, Al-Sahab. The first clip featured Usama bin Laden’s deputy, Aiman Muhammed Rabi al-Zawahiri (QI.A.6.01), and the second featured Abu Laith al-Liby, who then served as a senior member of LIFG and a senior leader and trainer for Al-Qaida in Afghanistan.

LIFG is believed to have several hundred members or supporters, mostly in the Middle East and Europe. Since the late 1990s, many LIFG members have fled from Libya to various Asian, Arabian Gulf, African, and European countries, particularly the United Kingdom. It is likely that LIFG has maintained a presence in eastern Libya and has facilitated the transfer of foreign fighters to Iraq.


Al Qaeda Backing Libyan Rebels:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=meZSJu-yYaU&feature=player_embedded
  21:02:09  25 October 2011
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Ancient
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The question here is why US government support Jihadist rebels in Libya! These people are declared terrorists!

To me answer is obvious!

Btw, things are getting even better! Libyan Rebels Free Al Qaeda Supporters:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUeNBy3FjRM&feature=player_embedded
  03:02:02  26 October 2011
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Ancient
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Man is furious! He has right to be, btw!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j45Jo4GSwfY&feature=player_embedded

And his reasons make sense:


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1: Gaddafi wouldn't bow down to the Rothschild banking cartel.
2: Purposed African Satellite
3: AMF:African Monetary Fund - No Central Bank, own currency - Bank of Investment: To control most investments in Africa
4: United States of Africa - Gaddafi wants to unite!
The countries that are bombing Libya are all Broke, they don't want him rising above becoming a powerful force, that is self-sufficient!!!
5: Gaddafi was returning to a gold standard.
6: Libya sits on Africa's largest oil and natural gas reserves.
7: A few weeks before Libya was invaded, Gaddafi had decided to sell his oil to only Russia, China and India.
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This is so sad!
  03:22:56  28 October 2011
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DrSwizz
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