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  06:18:48  16 August 2015
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Bodies of unique NPCs disappearing?

Usually people are so busy fighting the Mercenaries when they return
from Yantar that they miss the Poltergeist. Your best chance is to go
to the 3rd floor of the unfinished building and look to the north-west.
Unfortunately the other mutants usually kill it before the Player can.

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  23:55:19  16 August 2015
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Bodies of unique NPCs disappearing?

Usually people are so busy fighting the Mercenaries when they return
from Yantar that they miss the Poltergeist. Your best chance is to go
to the 3rd floor of the unfinished building and look to the north-west.
Unfortunately the other mutants usually kill it before the Player can.

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I've seen the poltergeist in the WT a few times, but it was exciting for me to find one in the Bar map. Just part of my weird obsession with spotting NPCs and mutants outside of their natural habitats, I suppose.

Have you seen this one before? http://i.imgur.com/dKSCqGF.jpg
  01:49:39  17 August 2015
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Is that a Poltergeist in that tower? I don't remember one in the RF in a
long time. I do remember some long ago but that might have been PS.

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  03:40:25  17 August 2015
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Bodies of unique NPCs disappearing?

Is that a Poltergeist in that tower? I don't remember one in the RF in a
long time. I do remember some long ago but that might have been PS.

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Yup, it's a Poltergeist. Quite likely one that could potentially be found in the WT too, since this was from a game where I went to Pripyat, grabbed the decoder via grenades, and then came back without shutting off the Brain Scorcher or completing any other major objectives. The game registered as though I had actually shut down the emitter once I arrived back in the Red Forest, and the Duty and Freedom exos who battle it out just stood at the bottom of the slope pointing their guns at each other until I moved away from them, when they finally decided to start firing.

But the weirdest part was when I entered X-19. I immediately passed out by the entrance, and after I awoke the Monolith fighters were standing in wait. I was still at the entrance to the facility, so I fought my way in to X-19 in order to flip a switch that did absolutely nothing. Then I left the facility and took that shot on my way back. It was a strange experience.
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Bodies of unique NPCs disappearing?

Does this mean you never met Doc to get the key to the Pripyat apartment?

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  08:21:02  17 August 2015
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Never met Doc, Guide, Mole, Seriy, or Fox. Aside from collecting the three Mama's Beads and some medkits I basically just ran to Yantar via the TZ, fragged Semenov and got the non-adjusted psi-helmet, then went to the AW and got the Sniper TRs-301, a Vintar BC, suit and ammo, then made for Pripyat. Though I did also make a save in the AW before doing anything so that I could try out playing the entire game as a Freedomer at some point.
  08:33:55  18 August 2015
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Bodies of unique NPCs disappearing?

All that you mention makes me wonder a few things. If you never went
to go see Fox what happens to him? Did you find him dead later? He's
a perma-body. In Yantar while in X-16, you get the prompt to visit Guide.
If you don't go ( or never went back ) would he be there now with Fox?
Of course Doc shouldn't be there if you never met Guide to prompt that.
Seriy & Mole should be there but Mole is not a perma-body and he will
disappear along with the unique gun he carries. Where's your Wolf?

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  21:10:38  18 August 2015
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You're definitely asking the right questions in order to get to the heart of why I decided to do this in the first place (which nicely ties it all in with the original topic). The true goal was to see if I could break any other unique NPCs scripting and get them to start wandering like Barin or Yurik so that I could get them to travel to unusual places. And while this experiment was largely a failure in that regard, I do have a new one that's currently in-progress. Though it's likely my last one involving wandering NPCs (as I can't really think of any other weird approaches to try). http://i.imgur.com/ngECFxr.jpg

As you can see Wolf is still in his original starting position, as are almost all of the unique NPCs. Fox actually doesn't spawn at all until you first speak to Wolf about Nimble (who's still held captive at the Car Park) and then cross the tracks to the northern side of the Cordon. And even poor Tolik has just been lying in that same spot this entire time. The only unique NPC changes I noticed are that Sparrow and Fiend stopped patrolling around the Bar and sat down at the camps, and Barin is gone (probably to the WT). Guide never spawned at all since I didn't go to X-16, and Mole is likely still in his starting position due to my never having entered Agroprom.

Someday I might actually try playing the game "properly" from this point and see what happens, but it'll be after my current experiment. In this newest one I skipped right to saving Mole and then going through the Agroprom Underground, and from there onto Yantar and X-16 to check Ghost. Will let you know if there are any interesting results.
  21:46:24  18 August 2015
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Bodies of unique NPCs disappearing?

Here's one for you. Wolf leaves the Rookie Village while you are grabbing
the Documents in the Agroprom. However you can actually track him if
you'd like without doing anything weird. All you have to do is take a task
from him ( giving you 24 hours ) and then rush to the Agroprom. As you
get the Documents, your PDA will tell you the location of where you have
to return to Wolf to get your reward for the task he gave. Now your PDA
becomes a tracking device for his movements. You can meet him in the
Garbage level. If you get the Documents you can follow him to Rostok
and even as he continues north to the Army Warehouses. This alone
is worthy of taking some cool screenshots of you and Wolf traveling.

Of course you can also do one of my favorite things to do before you
ever enter the Agroprom Underground the first time. Do it in reverse.

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  04:37:46  19 August 2015
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I'll have to try that with Wolf sometime. I seem to recall seeing some screenshots of yours with him in near the Bar a while back. Same with going through the Underground backward. I've only done so after the initial completion, which was still kinda cool.

Well, it worked. I was able to summon Guide and then meet Doc without doing any story missions other than saving Mole, getting Strelok's flash drive, then completing X-16 and checking Ghost's body. Unfortunately I did have to kill the Garbage-based Warrant Officer in order to pass through the gate on the return trip, but no one seemed to really care all that much.

http://i.imgur.com/Au1fZZm.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/LQedA9w.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/RKi3eFg.jpg

Now there are two ways that I could go with this. I could do the early missions now and see what weirdness might occur (hopefully something novel along with meeting Fox and defending him from blind dogs with Guide already there), or I could go properly obtain the decoder in Pripyat and then see what happens with the early missions. Think I'll opt for the latter choice.
 
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