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  02:05:20  30 September 2014
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optical_illusion
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So I launched CoD4..yeah this is the ShoC forum

Just for a comparisons...and im sorry CoD4's chernobyl levels are just soooooo much better , STALKER doesnt even hold a candle

The whole wasteland, no man's land barren creepy theme? STALKER just cant capture it there is a firefight every minute you cant even get a can of canned food without killing 20 NPC's.

That Church also looks sick, the MiG heli, i dont even know what else to sa. The troops.helicopters (MI-8) can actually be shot down by launchers and the NPC's actually rappel down from the instead of being automatically ''spawned'' like in the Chernobyl level where you can actualyl see it if you sprint fast enough

But ShoC's chernobyl level is still one of its best levels, because how hectic it is, nevertheless CoD captures it better.

Another thing that pissed me off..the ukranian Army, for that case never seem to use vehicles, even in Cordon, in CoD 4 the NPC's use URAL -375D to get around, NPC's have animations to get out, etc.

Heck in CoD Black OPS NPCs use GAZ-66 trucks to travel and have animations, etc.

On the old GSC website didnt it specifically say the military used old equipment ..and thats EXACTLY what they'd use

You might argue CoD's stuff is all scripted, but everything in STALKER is scripted too...at least the main storyline..so why coudnt they throw in that the Army actually ARRIVES either VIA helicopters being dropped off or in vehicles

And if they dont use vehicles-how did those 3x BTR's get in Chernobyl ..oh wait they just spawn out of thin air...in CoD 4 ..level-there is a whole convoy. exactly how an Eastern European army convoy would loo



In STALKER the only vehicles NPC's use are BTR-60s that get to spawn out of thin air

And those CoD guys arent even Russian...sigh Im half Ukranian/Russian myself and the CoD guys have a better picture or setting of Ukraine than the Ukrainians living there that made the game.....sigh both games released in the same year(2007)
  02:14:05  30 September 2014
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and here is the old

http://web.archive.org/web/20051202012610/http://stalker-game.com/index.php?t=game&s=objects&ss=technics&sss=btr

''The military try restrain from using modern and expensive machinery for their operations in the Zone because it must be destroyed after the utilization. Therefore, the army makes use of the outdated, though still reliable, armoured personnel-carriers that were left in the Zone in plenty back in the Soviet timesThe vehicle is rather expensive and not every Stalker can afford it. Though, you can always snatch it away from a patrol. ''

And if they are talking about Old..why BTR-70 instead of the BTR-60...but im getting offtopic you you never see the patrols...or NPC's even using vehicles...unlike CoD...
  03:42:49  30 September 2014
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I shall defend, to the last, your right to hold such an opinion.

I do not agree with it.

I think it may even be that you're experiencing an optical illusion.



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  04:04:05  30 September 2014
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I shall defend, to the last, your right to hold such an opinion.

I do not agree with it.

I think it may even be that you're experiencing an optical illusion.



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the only part where NPC's is X18...they ''supposedly'' come from the choppers, yet if you are fast enough..you can SEE they just spawn right there preset.

I agree not all STALKER levels should be ambient.the chernobyl level in STALKER is one of the best ones( a shame you cant even go back)

.but CoD4 captures other parts PERFECTLY.....the NPC's are few and far inbetween that silence...the crows...is THAT what you want from an abandoned ghost place Chernobyl?

Even tho I never been to cherobyl, i was born in Kremenchuk (, ( near kiev) it is LITERALLY like that ive lived in Eastern Europe for 12 years

Even in Black ops there are alot of scripted events where NPCs come in vehicles and get out of them ,etc..but in stalker army simply ''spawns'' out of the air and how do they even travel to the zone at least???
  08:07:07  3 October 2014
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So I launched CoD4..yeah this is the ShoC forum

optical_illusion~

I have to disagree with you.

CoD's first attempt at Pripyat was terrible. Everything was an
unrealistic blue tint and was lacking any detail and looked generic.

Later attempts added the color brown to the blue but still looked fake.
I'm not understanding the whole comic book inspired shades of depiction.

So what if you had the ability to grovel about on the ground like a snake.
Any sane person wouldn't want anything but their shoes on irradiated soil.

However probably what I found the most annoying in the CoD4 version is
the non-stop chatter and on screen dialogue. Shut the hell up I kept thinking.

Complaining that the animations ( non-game playing elements ) don't
show how military troops travel about the Zone are pointless. I don't
have to have a movie simulate that to me to understand that concept.

I don't get any of the immersion in the Zone that the Call of Duty series offer
when comparing them to the S.T.A.L.K.E.R. Games. CoD's tightly scripted, linear,
non-open ended game play can't hold a candle to the efforts by GSC Game World.

TS
  23:59:47  3 October 2014
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I agree with Tejas has posted, but I do understand where you come from. Call of Duty is superior in terms of character animations and graphics (Specifically vehicles). In addition, the missions are more engaging.

However, the missions have limits, not to mention that every play through of call of duty is the same. Stalker is always different with each play through. Plus, I don't like the stress scripted missions produce (Although when I was younger, I did). I like the explorations and free roam. I actually dislike the later parts of stalker games as they tend to go the way of call of duty, with tight scripts and little exploration.

In addition, in call of duty, you are playing as a western protagonist vs evil Russians, Germans, or Arabs. In stalker, you are just like everyone else. If call of duty was less biased, and allowed the player more flexibility in terms of who they play as, I would enjoy it more and play it. Command and Conquer spoiled me in this regards, as unless a game lets me play the bad guys, I won't buy it. In stalker, you are not really good or bad, which is a nice balance.
  13:42:23  4 October 2014
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Call of Duty and good graphics???

*BLALAAHAAHAHA*

Apart from animation (captured, they have the money) it is one of the most pathetic games out right now for graphical fidelity.
Compare this, 2013 AAA gigantic 300 million dollar game:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubpKUvd8NXM

To our very own 2008 Low Budget Niche PC exclusive:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAYLHAPPkvw&list=PLD2B82E405CF9650C&index=3

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkLR2tYRubw&list=PLD2B82E405CF9650C&index=2

Nope.
  21:51:43  4 October 2014
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Willy Tilly
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Well, I was trying to give COD the benefit of the doubt. Graphically, I was talking about COD4 vs stalker (Same year - only fair) on how you could see the pilots in helicopters, unlike in stalker.

Believe me, I am no fan of COD. I was trying to be neutral. That is all.

Loved the COD texture vid though.
  00:14:14  5 October 2014
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---QUOTATION---
Well, I was trying to give COD the benefit of the doubt. Graphically, I was talking about COD4 vs stalker (Same year - only fair) on how you could see the pilots in helicopters, unlike in stalker.

Believe me, I am no fan of COD. I was trying to be neutral. That is all.

Loved the COD texture vid though.
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Same year is STALKER Shadow of Chernobyl vs CoD 4.

No I do 2013 CoD vs 2008 STALKER Clear Sky.
BTW Clear Sky wins against all CoDs currently out right now
  00:38:55  5 October 2014
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So I launched CoD4..yeah this is the ShoC forum

Regardless of the pixels, the textures or animations, if you don't create
the right atmosphere, then you don't have the same level of immersion.
I'll never get that in the CoD games with all the screaming and chatter.

TS
 
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