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  08:55:03  12 August 2016
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Kane4
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On forum: 07/17/2008
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Are you aware of the fact that your body is radioactive?
Do you know what radioactivity is at all? No you don't know, just like majority of the people.
Don't know how much knowledge was required for Tejas' service aboard nuclear-powered vessels, but I wrote my PhD at the Large Hadron Collider, and I have a pretty good idea what radiation is.

Uuuuu, Large Hadron Collider!!!

Tell me Don, what do they collide in this LHC?

And tell me pls, what is radiation? I would like to see your answer.
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Radiation:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiation
  13:39:35  14 August 2016
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Ancient
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On forum: 03/31/2007
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The Andreev Bay nuclear accident

Ancient:

While you were serving in some submarines, i was literally dodging
grenades and bullets in war in Bosnia as an active soldier. So don't
forget that you talk to war veteran! So 1:0 for me
Btw, on of the reasons why i like Stalker is because not every bullet
hits its target It kinda reminds me of war.


Incorrect. While I was serving aboard Nuclear Powered Submarines,
Bosnia did not exist. It was called Yugoslavia. Yugoslavia was a peaceful
and very prosperous country, with high employment, a strong industrial
and export oriented economy, a good education system and social and
medical services enjoyed by all it's citizens of it's various ethnic groups.

This changed later in the 1990s when ethnic fighting over political and
religious differences broke the country apart. As we've had this conversation
before, I'm not impressed with your War Crimes and your participation in
genocide and ethnic cleansing. I don't believe my training about Radiation
and Nuclear Reactors is comparable with your training on how to burn a house
down with sleeping people inside, how to drown a baby in a bucket of water
or how to dispose the bodies of hundreds of men, women and children that
were killed in mass graves. You're not a soldier, you're a hooligan with a gun.

Why you like Stalker is beyond me. It's features a Nuclear accident with
harmful and deadly radiation that you don't believe in. Since you think
Radiation is harmless and a scam, then you must believe the accident at
Chernobyl is a hoax by the Russian Government and is safe to go visit.


And why did you pull this nonsensical argument? You were
serving in Nuclear Powered Submarines doing what??? What,
serving in these submarines makes you an expert about radiation?
But your answers do not surprise me at all.


More so than your training on killing women and children and mutilating
their bodies. More so than killing your fellow former Yugoslavian comrades
because you wanted to help other criminals in ethnic cleansing & genocide.


For the people who properly researched this topic - Galen Winsor video is priceless.


There's nothing to properly research except the link Don Reba gave you
debunking all your idiotic, unfounded babble. Galen Winsor is an idiot
that is so crazy he can't even get a Wikipedia page with all his lies.

TS
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O boy!?
First, everything that i stated is correct. Second, Bosnia is waaaaay older then Yugoslavia. Over 1000 years. So pls don't embarrass with statements like this.
I'm born in Yugoslavia, so i know this country way better then you. You actually know nothing about it. And i was against this war from the start. Other people forced me to go to war. And i definitely did not kill anyone in this war. But they surely tried to kill me, many times.
You know nothing about me, so don't write nonsense.

Stalker is not only about radiation. First time i have heard about Stalker in 2002, and it was love at first sight. And back then my view and knowledge about radiation was different. Similar to yours.

People like Tesla and later Galen knew what radiation is. And these people were good and honest.
Have you ever considered possibility that people who run this industry don't want this energy to be available and cheap? And this "energy" is everywhere. Everything is radioactive.
  13:53:58  14 August 2016
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Ancient
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Tell me Don, what do they collide in this LHC?Mostly protons, sometimes lead ions. We use magnets to accelerate particles, so they have to be charged.
And tell me pls, what is radiation? I would like to see your answer.Can you be more specific?
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I know how LHC works.
But how can you collide particles when they don't exist? Atoms are mathematical constructs created by mathematicians. They don't exist.
Waves exist, vibrations.

And give me your simplest definition of radiation.
  18:45:24  14 August 2016
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Don Reba
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But how can you collide particles when they don't exist? Atoms are mathematical constructs created by mathematicians. They don't exist.
Waves exist, vibrations.
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Well, how can you collide anything? Particles indeed can collide, and we can trace their individual trajectories through magnetic fields, which tells us their charge and momentum.

Everything we reason about is an abstract construct of one sort or another. What happens below the Plank scale is different from everything we experience, but the concepts of particles and waves are both useful analogies for reasoning about it. The Standard Model of particle physics puts it in exact terms.

You seem to be confused about the math. Those equations of the Standard Model, they aren't some mathematical trick for predicting physics, they are the physics. At least, as far as we know at the moment. Particles and waves are just mental aids.


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And give me your simplest definition of radiation.
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I'm really ok with the dictionary definitions. It's just a word. If there is something specific you want to know, I'll be happy to help.
  21:22:00  14 August 2016
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nashathedog
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Didn't the collider prove that it is possible for something to move faster than light? I read something about that ages ago but don't remember much, the name Quark keeps coming to mind but that may be to do with something else, The name stuck thanks to a certain well known bartender.
  21:45:34  14 August 2016
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Tejas Stalker
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The Andreev Bay nuclear accident

Ancient~

I knew you were going to take issue with my statement that Bosnia didn't
exist yet. Because that's the way you are, having difficulty understanding
what people mean. Sure Bosnia has had a long history while Yugoslavia
is an artificial construct that came into being after World War I in 1918.

However in your lifetime, it had never become a country that was called
Bosnia ( technically: Bosnia and Herzegovina ) until 1992 when the former
Yugoslavia dissolved and fell into chaotic ruin. You tried to tell me this
period of genocide and ethnic cleansing by Bosnia, was during my time
serving aboard Nuclear Powered Submarines, which it was not since that
time was many years before when the Soviet Union still existed. So please
spare me the speech where you know it all while everyone else here doesn't.

As with everything about you, your story constantly changes. You have
bragged in the past about being a soldier, fighting others and having to do
things that a soldier does in a time of war. When I bring up the genocide
and ethnic cleansing that took place in Bosnia, suddenly your story changes
that you weren't actually a soldier or war veteran, didn't actually kill anyone
and spent your time fleeing and escaping danger like a displaced refugee.

Don't assume that your knowledge about Radiation in 2002 is anything
remotely like mine, whereas I have received training and education far
beyond anything you have access to. Watching Youtube videos by crazy,
conspiracy nuts people is not enlightenment. It's delusional, charlatan,
and irrefutably psychotic that appeals to people with mental instability.

You have an incredibly bad habit of assuming that everyone was at your
level sometime in the past about various subjects and somehow you have
presently attained some enlightenment that if only people would view the
same material, they would fall under the same spell as you. Have you
noticed yet not a single person here has done so? No matter how many
times you crazily repeat the words "properly research", it isn't going to happen.

For the third time now, I will mention it and you will ignore the post that
Don Reba gave you debunking the idiot fool Galen Winsor. You have the
mindset that you ignore accepted science that doesn't conform to your
apparent lunacy and false prophets of junk science. Atoms don't exist,
radiation doesn't exist, the moon landing was a hoax, space travel cannot
take place, the list goes on and on how you have renounced scientific fact
and you exist in your fantasy world of denial, obstruction, ignorance & lies.

You seem to believe a very black and white view of science. Radiation
exists and you've been told it kills people. However when they receive
a mild exposure and don't die, in your twisted mind the radiation is a lie.
People can go outside and be exposed to radiation by the sun. People can
also go indoors and be exposed to more radiation from the construction
material of their homes or common household products that they own.
Just because they are mild and low dosage amounts of radiation that
people can receive doesn't mean that more dangerous types from deadlier
sources are a hoax. You seem to think that if someone doesn't immediately
drop dead from radiation that it is a scam. Your logic is as flawed as the
video recordings you worship. A person can eat something and get food
poisoning and die. Most people do not and get mild diarrhea and survive
the ordeal. Galen Winsor gets diarrhea and then proclaims that the food is
safe because he did not die. Therefore death by food poisoning is a scam.

No one here is going to follow or accept your crazy beliefs. However please
continue to talk Science with Don Reba so all can see what an idiot you are
when it comes to discussing things you pretend to know about and you do not.

TS
  22:22:24  14 August 2016
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Don Reba
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On forum: 12/04/2002
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Didn't the collider prove that it is possible for something to move faster than light? I read something about that ages ago but don't remember much, the name Quark keeps coming to mind but that may be to do with something else, The name stuck thanks to a certain well known bartender.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faster-than-light_neutrino_anomaly

CERN, but not LHC, participated in an experiment that seemed to observe neutrinos move at a superluminal speed, but it turned out to be an error.

Quarks are elementary particles that make up protons and neutrons. They are bound together by the strong nuclear force and never occur on their own, except at very high energies that existed at the first few milliseconds at the beginning of the Universe and in the Large Hadron Collider.
  08:28:16  15 August 2016
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Kane4
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And then there's the Higgs Boson particles that keep all matter together and give it mass, but we can't really produce them yet, can we? LHC is trying hard to create them but they are proving to be elusive.
  09:00:07  15 August 2016
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Don Reba
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And then there's the Higgs Boson particles that keep all matter together and give it mass, but we can't really produce them yet, can we? LHC is trying hard to create them but they are proving to be elusive.
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The Higgs field is what gives all the other particles mass, and it is mediated by the Higgs Boson particle. Its existence has been confirmed at the LHC 4 years ago. That was actually disappointing because it turned out to be exactly what the Standard Model predicted, so it doesn't expand our understanding of physics. Physicists are hoping to find something beyond the Standard Model.
  09:23:02  15 August 2016
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nashathedog
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Didn't the collider prove that it is possible for something to move faster than light? I read something about that ages ago but don't remember much, the name Quark keeps coming to mind but that may be to do with something else, The name stuck thanks to a certain well known bartender.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faster-than-light_neutrino_anomaly

CERN, but not LHC, participated in an experiment that seemed to observe neutrinos move at a superluminal speed, but it turned out to be an error.

Quarks are elementary particles that make up protons and neutrons. They are bound together by the strong nuclear force and never occur on their own, except at very high energies that existed at the first few milliseconds at the beginning of the Universe and in the Large Hadron Collider.
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Oh well, least I was in similar ballparks, I ended up googling it after posting here last night and spent a few of minutes looking here and there, I saw mention of the neutrino's but not that it had been debunked, Infact what I read must of been written before that, It's a shame so many sites don't update articles when what's in them has been shown to be wrong more often.
Before the Internet was as it is I used to be a regular New Scientist and National Geographic reader, I was always guaranteed to find something interesting to read in those.
 
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