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  13:38:46  13 November 2017
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nashathedog
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When it comes to gaming there's no competition at the moment, Coffeelake's 6 core rules supreme. Here's an interesting video about the new & old i5's and the direction gaming's going regarding cpu usage by a JOAT tech Pundit on Youtube.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RwF5XewHmU8

TS, It's great news that you're as good as ready to do the build, I'm the same with house work, I've got a spare room that's spent the last 5 years filling up with everything I couldn't find the time to find a home for. Make sure to do some pics of your build to show us when you get around to putting it together. Don't leave it too long thnough as you want to make sure everything is working properly,
It's a shame you didn't go for the cheap OS, Microsoft have changed how you get and use Windows with version 10. They have a generic build you download for free and put on a USB stick, With that you can then install Win 10 onto as many PC's as you like, All you'll need to do is buy a code from a trusted trader on Amazon, They'll send you the code in an e-mail which you then use to verify your OS install.
I was very wary with these sort of codes and used to spend as much as a hundred quid a time for a copy of Windows, I spent that on Win 7 & 8.1, I bought a 50 quid OEM disc of Win 10 pro for this build but I installed it on the motherboard I sent back and had to buy another copy of Windows for the motherboard I have now,
I didn't want to spend another 50 quid so I checked Amazon where I found a Windows 10 Pro codes being sold for just six quid. I bought it and was e-mailed with the code and the instructions that told me to go to Microsoft's website and download the generic Windows installer to put on a USB stick.
I did all that and had no problems with the code. At the moment that trader has no cheap codes but another seller with a history of fair trading has Win 10 pro keys for 7 quid.
Unless you're a fairly rich fella who won't miss what we usually pay on a copy of Windows deals like this are hard to ignore.
  08:59:43  14 November 2017
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Nasha~

I got my last piece today, the other 2 sticks of 8 GB of DDR4 at 3000.
The latency timing of 15-17-17-35 is the lowest that I saw on any of
the various speeds from 2666 up to the 3600 RGB DDR4 I considered.

Choosing the version of Windows 10: OEM Download, OEM DVD, Retail
Download, Retail DVD or Retail USB was probably the hardest decision
that I made. Sure, I could save big bucks on the OEM versions but the
very same vendor that had people say that it worked great without any
problems also had reviews saying Microsoft told them their version was
an unauthorized and/or illegal copy. It simply wasn't worth the risk to
me to take that chance. It wasn't worth saving $20-30 bucks when I
could just go ahead and get the retail USB version ( that includes both
the 32 & 64 bit versions and allows multiple installations ) for peace of
mind. I simply accepted that I paid a little more and had no worries.
Definitely I will take plenty of pictures when the time comes building.

TS
  09:11:41  14 November 2017
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In Hindsight: Some of the Worst CPU/GPUs Purchases of 2017:
https://www.techspot.com/article/1523-worst-cpu-gpu-purchases-2017/

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SAPPHIRE Radeon RX Vega 64 NITRO pictured and tested:
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  11:33:42  14 November 2017
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PC upgrading

Nasha~

I got my last piece today, the other 2 sticks of 8 GB of DDR4 at 3000.
The latency timing of 15-17-17-35 is the lowest that I saw on any of
the various speeds from 2666 up to the 3600 RGB DDR4 I considered.

Choosing the version of Windows 10: OEM Download, OEM DVD, Retail
Download, Retail DVD or Retail USB was probably the hardest decision
that I made. Sure, I could save big bucks on the OEM versions but the
very same vendor that had people say that it worked great without any
problems also had reviews saying Microsoft told them their version was
an unauthorized and/or illegal copy. It simply wasn't worth the risk to
me to take that chance. It wasn't worth saving $20-30 bucks when I
could just go ahead and get the retail USB version ( that includes both
the 32 & 64 bit versions and allows multiple installations ) for peace of
mind. I simply accepted that I paid a little more and had no worries.
Definitely I will take plenty of pictures when the time comes building.

TS
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That's a good deal if it was a version you can install on multiple PC's, In the UK that sort of version cost anywhere from £140 to £200.

The latency of your ram is okay, I checked whether the memory I have was available in the US a couple of weeks ago but it isn't on new egg etc so I think we just got lucky as it's 8 pack branded, 8 pack is someone who works for OCUK and holds several World records in Overclocking.
OCUK has 8 pack branded ram that's 3200 mhz with 14-14-14-31 latency. I don't really understand or see how latency can do much for gaming but it wasn't priced any higher than any other 3200 mhz sets when I got it and it also has good looking sticks so I grabbed it while it was available. I only got 2x 8gb sticks due to pricing but if I can afford it I may get another 2 in the new year depending on the DDR5 timeline.

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/team-group-dark-pro-8pack-edition-16gb-2x8gb-ddr4-pc4-25600c14-3200mhz-dual-channel-kit-black-my-08l-tg.html

I think I'm going to buy myself the Sapphire Vega graphics card for Christmas and move everything back into the C70 case if the card won't fit in my Cube, At the moment my PC get surprisingly loud while gaming, I won't ever buy a blower card again. Horrible.
  21:45:31  14 November 2017
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Nasha~

Certainly your OCUK branded DDR4 memory at 3200 with 14-14-14-31
timing is better than mine for latency. However I wasn't just looking for
any brand of memory for that alone. The first requirement I had, other
than high quality, superior heat sink design and a reasonable price was
that it be RGB capable ( red-green-blue lighting ) to utilize with my Asus
Motherboard's Aura sync-lighting. There were really only two big brands
to choose from with RGB: Corsair Vengeance and the G. Skill Trident Z.

VENGEANCE RGB – Stunning RGB, Striking Speed:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltftbxezJbo

G.Skill Trident Z RGB - How does it look?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QD4FMjxn2Ms

So since I was buying so many Corsair products like my Computer Case,
Liquid Cooling for my CPU, my AIC M.2 SSD, several case fans, and other
stuff, etc. I decided to go with the Corsair Vengeance. So basically this
is what I had to choose from in latency timing at various speeds. Keep
in mind that as with most increases in speed there was a higher price.

Corsair Vengeance DDR4 RGB: ( lower timing numbers are better )

2666 - 16-18-18-35 CAS Latency: 15
3000 - 15-17-17-35 CAS Latency: 15
3000 - 16-18-18-36 CAS Latency: 16
3200 - 16-18-18-36 CAS Latency: 16
3200 - 16-19-19-36 CAS Latency: 16
3333 - 16-18-18-36 CAS Latency: 16
3466 - 16-18-18-36 CAS Latency: 16
3600 - 18-19-19-39 CAS Latency: 18
3800 - 19-19-19-39 CAS Latency: 19
4000 - 19-23-23-45 CAS Latency: 19
4266 - 19-26-26-46 CAS Latency: 19

These are pretty typical prices. However I was very lucky to find my 2 x 8 GB
sticks at $169 ( $338 for 4 ) whereas that normally goes for around $214 for 2.
http://www.corsair.com/en-us/memory/vengeance-rgb-series

The Best RGB RAM – Final Answer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NjGS273WAY

TS
  08:42:47  15 November 2017
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Intel To Launch 3D XPoint DIMMs in 2H 2018
https://www.anandtech.com/show/12041/intel-to-launch-3d-xpoint-dimms-in-2h-2018

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Asus Lyra
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Intel releases Graphics Driver 15.60 for Windows
http://www.deccanchronicle.com/technology/in-other-news/121117/intel-releases-graphics-driver-1560-for-windows.html

TS
  11:36:06  15 November 2017
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---QUOTATION---
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Nasha~

Certainly your OCUK branded DDR4 memory at 3200 with 14-14-14-31
timing is better than mine for latency.
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I think you miss understood what I meant, I wasn't bragging how my ram has better latency than yours as you can guarantee that there will be no difference between the two except your's will look better with the RGB lighting. I would of licked to go down the same route but there wasn't a motherboard in the niche M-ATX range that supported it.


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So since I was buying so many Corsair products like my Computer Case,
Liquid Cooling for my CPU, my AIC M.2 SSD, several case fans, and other
stuff, etc. I decided to go with the Corsair Vengeance. So basically this
is what I had to choose from in latency timing at various speeds. Keep
in mind that as with most increases in speed there was a higher price.
TS
---END QUOTATION---



That's a good way to do it, Corsairs a good brand.
  11:38:20  15 November 2017
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---QUOTATION---
PC upgrading

Nasha~

Certainly your OCUK branded DDR4 memory at 3200 with 14-14-14-31
timing is better than mine for latency.
---END QUOTATION---


I think you miss understood what I meant, I wasn't bragging how my ram has better latency than yours, you can guarantee that there will be no difference between the two except your's will look better with the RGB lighting. I would of liked to go down the same route but I couldn't find a motherboard in the M-ATX range that supported RGB lighting.


---QUOTATION---

So since I was buying so many Corsair products like my Computer Case,
Liquid Cooling for my CPU, my AIC M.2 SSD, several case fans, and other
stuff, etc. I decided to go with the Corsair Vengeance. So basically this
is what I had to choose from in latency timing at various speeds. Keep
in mind that as with most increases in speed there was a higher price.
TS
---END QUOTATION---



That's a good way to do it, Corsairs a good brand.
  21:34:03  15 November 2017
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Nasha~

Hey no problem. I never thought you were bragging. Obviously if OCUK
decides to pick some memory to label as their brand, it's not going to be
some mediocre type but something special with great latency. I just did
not see anything that low in timing in what I was looking at and thought
that I made a decent choice with what I had to choose from in the RGB.

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Just a reminder to everyone, while I would like to say I made my decision
to do a build based on hearing about the Intel 6-core Coffee Lake coming
out, that wouldn't be true. It all started when I saw and wanted this case:
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811139015&cm_re=corsair-_-11-139-015-_-Product

TS
  09:19:46  16 November 2017
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Intel’s Z390 Motherboards Start Showing Up – Will Support
Coffee Lake-S (Up To 8 Core) Processors, Arrival Due in 1H 2018:
https://wccftech.com/intel-z390-motherboard-leak/

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Seagate BarraCuda Pro 12TB HDD Review:
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TS
 
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