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  06:05:55  31 July 2010
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SalmonGod
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On forum: 07/23/2009
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I do admit. Steam really sucked when it was first released. I didn't like that it was required when it was such a bad service in the beginning, and it was a really jarring change. By the time HL2 came out, I loved it.
  09:28:24  31 July 2010
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009
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Being an avid user of steam allow me to say I would not have been introduced to the stalker world without it, never heard of it till I saw it on steam, 20 bucks fine got shadow of chernobyl and got hooked, so thank you steam advertising. Also regarding some points others made.
Steam isn't slow, your computer is no offence, it is not slow for me and has not been, only every once in a blue moon but what doesn't f over every now and then? . Also, your accounts as easy to hack as you let it be. It also makes thing's easier to keep track of, if I got games retail say the disk breaks, gets to dusty something similar, then what? Nothing I'm screwed. Also Spartan regarding Cod, they chose to not use dedicated servers, not steam. They also chose VAC which is only good with dedicated servers. It was a stupid move to make a lazy console port for the pc and now activision and what's left of IW is paying for it.
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Well, Steam was pretty horrible to me before the new recent update. I remember the first time I install Steam, the update bar stuck so that I have to Ctrl+Alt+Delete it and restart it again (it stuck 2 times actually). Then when I first launch it after the updates have finish, it stuck ........again, took me an hour to get it back to working order. Then months later, Steam yet again refuse to load. I have to delete ClientRegistry.blob, and let it update all over again. Time and time, more and more problem go slamming on Steam. I just hate it back then. Thank god Valve finally made an update that let Steam works the way it did.

So in other words, I made that list by my past experience with Steam. I guest I just really unlucky with Steam or some thing
  09:53:19  3 August 2010
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x_Spartan_x
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On forum: 07/07/2009
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Lets not forget, What happens if the Steam corp or bussness goes bust or some type of "global finacial crap" and disappears.
Wheres all your games go, if you need steam to log on ect.

  19:35:36  3 August 2010
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SalmonGod
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On forum: 07/23/2009
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Lets not forget, What happens if the Steam corp or bussness goes bust or some type of "global finacial crap" and disappears.
Wheres all your games go, if you need steam to log on ect.


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Same place they go if you lose a disc, your house burns down, you loan your game to a friend who disappears, your dog uses your disc as a chew toy, etc.

My point is, it's just as easy to lose a game when you own the disc. It's easier in fact, as there are countless variables and events that could destroy your physical copy of a game. With Steam, there are only two things you need to worry about: your password and Valve's integrity.
  20:10:04  3 August 2010
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RoboMook
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On forum: 11/12/2008
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Also, these kind of arguments are nothing to do with Steam, they're about digital distribution in general. Steam isn't the only digital download service for games, although it is the most dominant one.

According to NPD's figures nearly half of all games sold last year were downloads. You can debate the figures, but you can't debate the fact that a lot of people prefer to download games rather than buy physical copies, and it's fair to assume that most of these people are perfectly aware of the limitations and pitfalls of digital downoads as opposed to buying a disc, as well as the benefits it offers.
  22:08:30  3 August 2010
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Kane4
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On forum: 07/17/2008
 

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I hate it when you have to wait for patches for Steam games way longer, because they they have to incorporate their protection into them. Also limited number of installs is a major annoyance as well.
  22:37:13  3 August 2010
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Ivanov
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On forum: 01/11/2010
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I love steam for it's incredible service. The only games that I don't play with steam are those which don't support it.
  22:42:30  3 August 2010
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RoboMook
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I hate it when you have to wait for patches for Steam games way longer, because they they have to incorporate their protection into them. Also limited number of installs is a major annoyance as well.
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Steam does not impose install limits - if a game you bought on Steam does then it's due to third-party DRM (eg SecuRom, TAGES etc.), and in those cases the disc version would have exactly the same DRM. Steam's DRM is very un-restrictive and unobtrusive compared to most other systems.

With regards to patches, there are two things that can cause late availability of patches whether you bought your game via Steam or any other digital distributer; one of them is the provider being being slow at putting it out, and the other is the developer/publisher being slow at sending it to them. Again, this isn't a Steam issue, it's a digital distribution issue in general; patches are usually dependant on the provider.
  04:37:57  4 August 2010
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Baff
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Steam is usually enough of a reason for me not to buy a game.

I think it's a pretty good system overall, but it makes using the software they way I wish to incredibly unwieldy.
To the point where it's just too much trouble for me to launch my games when I still have other games that I can just click and go.

I'll qualify this by saying that I predominantly play either single player or LAN games.
  10:43:36  4 August 2010
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Kane4
"Order of the Liquidators" and Dez0wave Tester
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Steam does not impose install limits - if a game you bought on Steam does then it's due to third-party DRM (eg SecuRom, TAGES etc.)
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This doesn't make any sense. Why would Steam games need to have 3rd party drm's if they're on Steam? Wouldn't Steam already provide it's own protection?
 
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